Deal alert / Kate Bush: Before The Dawn


Lowest price to date right now for the 3CD edition of Kate Bush‘s Before The Dawn.

This is only £9.99 right now (with autorip if you’re in the UK) which is £3 cheaper than buying the MP3 version! It was £17 back in November, so under a tenner for the triple-CD set is great value.


Before The Dawn 

CD 1 – Act One:
01 – Lily  (04:48)
02 – Hounds Of Love  (03:33)
03 – Joanni  (06:07)
04 – Top Of The City  (05:24)
05 – Never Be Mine  (05:55)
06 – Running Up That Hill (A Deal With God)  (05:40)
07 – King Of The Mountain  (08:05)

CD 2 – Act Two:
01 – Astronomer’s Call  (02:44)
02 – And Dream Of Sheep  (03:37)
03 – Under Ice (03:04)
04 – Waking The Witch  (06:38)
05 – Watching Them Without Her (01:57)
06 – Watching You Without Me  (04:23)
07 – Little Light  (02:08)
08 – Jig Of Life  (04:11)
09 – Hello Earth  (07:55)
10 – The Morning Fog  (05:23)

CD 3 – Act Three:
01 – Prelude  (01:55)
02 – Prologue  (10:10)
03 – An Architect’s Dream  (05:22)
04 – The Painter’s Link  (01:39)
05 – Sunset  (08:00)
06 – Aerial Tal  (01:30)
07 – Somewhere In Between (06:59)
08 – Tawny Moon  (06:08)
09 – Nocturn  (08:51)
10 – Aerial  (09:43)
11 – Among Angels  (05:48)
12 – Cloudbusting  (07:16)



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Does anyone have the EU 3xCD version with the card sleeve in immaculate condition? I mean with absolutely no creases or folds in the spine? I haven’t found one yet.

Obviously the black card sleeve is really sensitive to wear. Whenever I find a physical copy, it always has minor marks in the sleeve. Neither have a seen a spine that’s creaseless.

When the Amazon.uk £10 offer came around, I ordered it (with a bunch of other CD’s). Package arrived, but the sleeve looked damaged, even through the shrinkwrap. Also, there was a visible scratch mark on the sticker – little details that matter to a collector. Luckily, Amazon.uk has excellent customer service. I returned the CD, after which they sent a replacement. I did have to ask them especially to refund the return postage in full, though.

The 2nd CD was packaged in a flat card envelope and the sleeve was totally squashed. Again, I got an instant response from customer service and was promised a replacement, sent in a box.

Disappointment #3: repeat the previous paragraph. Flat card envelope, sleeve totally squashed. Instant response from customer service, promised a replacement, to be sent in a box. I was hopeful.

Disappointment #4: Flat card envelope, sleeve totally squashed. Instant response from customer service. At this point, they informed me they had reached the maximum amount of times a replacement can be sent! I am “allowed” to re-order it, but what are the chances of getting a mint copy?

To state the obvious, what can you expect from a major mail order company? I have yet to dound one that does decent packaging. It’s always a gamble, as to which state the cntents arrive in. I suppose most uses tolerate damage and don’t bother with the hassle of returns.

So now I have 3 copies of the 3xCD, all with squashed sleeve. I decided to open one, just to see what’s inside. Now, I have collected music since the late 70s, I own hundreds (thousands?) of CD’s and vinyl, so handling discs isn’t exactly new to me. This item has those rubber holders, quite unusual – but I’ve handled them before. Disc #2 broke in two when I popped it out!

I don’t think I am meant to own this release.


Quote: “The writing feels unrealistic and at times cheesy and melodramatic. They jar for me against the excellent music and I find myself wondering how on earth they got past KB’s quality control?”

I think they got past quality control because Kate wrote them (I’m assuming).

I have watched “The Line, The Cross and The Curve” and – while visually amazing – I find her spoken word/acting performance in that to be cheesy and melodramatic too. So even though BTD spoken parts are not performed by her, I imagine she had a hand in the script.


Sadly, after my initial excitement, I have been a little disappointed in this album. I love good writing and so I find the spoken word moments a bit annoying. The writing feels unrealistic and at times cheesy and melodramatic. They jar for me against the excellent music and I find myself wondering how on earth they got past KB’s quality control?

So now, while I still would have liked to have made one of the shows, it does lessen my regret a little – as well as my need for a blu-ray release.

But clearly, this is all totally personal. No one else has found these spoken word moments a distraction at all. I enjoy the first CD best as I don’t have to skip over them they way I have to on the other two discs. And I’m glad I don’t have the vinyl.


Thanks to daveid76 for the heads up on Dylan Bootleg 1-3. Never got round to buying that until now. Coveniently after my “I don’t need any more new music just now.” soliloquy…..


Your “I don’t need…” soliloquy comment just made me smile – I made that very same soliloquy on NYE as my resolution, after spending WAAAAAY too much money in 2016. Then Jan 1 rolled around and I spot 10-15 desperately wanted ‘Cherry Reds/Pops’ and ‘Edsels’ (not new, but in near-mint condition from a trusted seller) on eBay for a bloody good price! Ugh! And then a few days after that I see ‘Deal Alerts’ for the S/A/W and Belinda Carlisle boxes!

Looks like I’ll have to repeat that soliloquy this NYE! :)


Thanks for the head up.

I already bought this one on vinyl, but unfortunately it did not come with a download, so I’ll fork out another tenner so I can hear it on the go.
Hate it when vinyl does not offer downloads.


Of course I’m disappointed that there is no ‘visual’ recording available, but I still bought it because I do love a live CD even if there’s no video to go with it. However, the sound/volume on this is so poor that it is a let-down. I like to feel that I’m sitting near the front with my eyes closed, but with this I feel like I’m sitting outside the venue in earmuffs. I might just have to go looking for…..uh…..some ‘boots’ *nudge-nudge-wink-wink*.

I was able to buy it locally so I managed to avoid the spine-crease dilemma*, but the material is so flimsy that I nearly bend the panels just trying to get the discs out.

*But even buying ‘direct’ can be problematic – if the shop staff are careless or lazy, sometimes a digipack can get damaged/creased just from being casually shoved into the rack/display.

I am sorry that some people here find jewel-cases ‘horrifying’ and ‘dull’, but please drop the attitude that those of us who like/prefer them don’t deserve to be here.

Miguel Rocha

Archived and somehow more representative of experiencing the live performance. Presumably more than DVD/ blu-ray?Meaning…?!


Too bad the .ca price did not hold up, because there was another item that I wanted at .ca. At least .co.uk was still a good deal to the States. Ordered and thanks! I too wanted a video release, but I’ll give it a spin in my sled.


10 quid is a bargain.

I love this release, but can’t quite get over how different ‘The Ninth Wave’ is on the second disc to what some of us saw and have heard on the boots. Kate’s really changed the soundscape and edited out drastically quite a few moments (the chainsaws / the helicopters / the eternal beeping throughout ‘And Dream of Sleep’, etc.)

Plus, it would have been sublime to have this as a Blu-ray audio to keep the original surround-sound.


…as I should have added, the blu-ray audio release would have also kept the two-act structure. The thunder and canon-fire that ends ‘King of the Mountain’ naturally flows into the start of ‘The Ninth Wave’. The impact is lost a little on the CD / LP set.

Speaking of impact – the live version of ‘Never Be Mine’ is powerfully sublime. Worth 10 quid just to have this.

Miguel Rocha

Ok, I wish I was one of the lucky few to have had the privilege of seeing this live. Including airfare it would have cost two or three mortgage payments, but, hey, for Kate, right?! No!!! I’ve been a major fan since I first heard Wuthering Heights on the radio in Toronto back in ’78. Yes, before home video was readily available for viewing concerts in the comfort of home. As much as I love Kate, this cd release strikes me uncomfortably as an incomplete product, and the missing element is something that seems essential to its enjoyment; the visuals. So much effort was put into the visual storytelling and this is going to be withheld from the many, many unlucky fans that couldn’t witness this live?! I have a sneaking suspicion we won’t be waiting too long for the complete audio/visual experience…or, at least, I hope not!!!


I don’t understand why the designers of these thick deluxe editions cardboard sleeves can’t reinforce the spine of them to avoid the creasing, it’s such an obvious flaw, I had to send one of the Blue Nile ones back 4 times to Amazon before I hit an acceptable one!


I prevaricated getting this on release (annoyed by the lack of visuals and KB’s lame excuses in the promo interviews did little to help)…however Santa was generous and I’ve now played the live version of ‘The Ninth Wave’ constantly since slipping it, begrudgingly, in to my CD player on Boxing Day. Just gorgeous; like meeting a long lost friend and realising how much you’ve missed them. Getting a completely different experience listening to the live version (with 40 yo ears) compared to my teenage take on the original. Gorgeous and life-affirming – at £9.99 worth a punt.

Still haven’t forgiven the Teresa May comments though…

Paul Kent

I also received mine from Amazon in tip top condition. Nary a crease nor a crushed corner in sight. Sadly, for me, it’s what is on the discs that disappoints. As others have commented it’s actually quite a dull listening experience that will really only work as a memento for those who attended the shows. Given the theatrical nature of the show the performance must adhere to a strict time-sheet, which means pretty much every song is a carbon copy of the studio cut, with no room for improv. When it does stretch out, as on King Of The Mountain and Waking The Witch, it’s clearly to accompany the visual aspect, as the extended jams on both are nothing more than live loops. It’s why Floyd’s Pulse is superfluous but Queen’s Rainbow/MK Bowl/Montreal/Wembley albums are thrilling.


Ordering this online is a guarantee to receive it all squashed in the mail looking like crap. Not least thanks to the genius who designed the packaging all that free space.

Derek Langsford

Mine came with two jewel boxed sets (Phill Collins Singles 3 CD and Nik Kershaw Human Racing 2 CD) which may have caused the issue if it wasn’t the shrinkwrap being too tight. Almost seems like a hard box is needed for non-jewel case sets so that no pressure is applied to them. Have appreciated the Simple Minds sets being double boxed and my Genesis sets being suspended internally and unable to be damaged within a sturdy box.

Philip Cohen

Thanks for the link. I ordered it from Amazon.co.uk today.


Thanks Paul – bought, together with some very cheap Dylan and more Bowie. The Man Who Sold the World is now ‘only’ £4.58. It was over £8 the other day. Dylan’s Planet Waves is now only 2.99 and Street-Legal and Blonde on Blonde are 3.99. Bootleg Series 1-3 is only 4.99.

David Cornyn

I guess it’s up to me to make the obvious “There goes a tenner” comment…


I’d definitely add to others’ comments – don’t buy this from Amazon unless you want a crushed spine and want to waste your time sending it back and forth because they don’t hear your complaints about packaging. Buy from a shop where you can see what you’re getting and are able to choose an undamaged one.

Ron I

*even more

Not ‘anymore’

Ron I


I 100% agree with you. For me, it’s about the music. I much prefer digipaks over depressing and utilitarian old jewel cases.

If you order a lot of Vinyl from overseas, you have to allow for some dings and creases in the LP covers.

Here’s something funny: I actually like buying used copies of LP’s because they’ve already got the signs of use and wear and I don’t have to worry about being so careful, which frees me to enjoy the music anymore.

And all this coming from someone who’s obsessive about details.

elliott buckingham

a brilliant sounding set that makes more sense as a cd release than the 4lp vinyl also the awful digipack when received from amazon had a crushed spine give me a jewell case over a cardboard 1 anyday at least they can be replaced

Steven Campbell

For anyone interested the Kate Bush CD can also be found on zoom.com for £10 and if like me you’ve never been on the website you can get 10% off for signing up with their email meaning you get it for £9! All that and unlike Amazon or HMV you get free delivery to your door without having to spend a set amount ie £20 in both cases. Granted you can get it delivered to store for HMV but if like me you have to pay to park in a multi-storey carpark to go to your nearest HMV that kinda negates free postage to the store.

Mike the Fish

HMV is £10 for free delivery, and some items below that can be click and collected from one of the shops.

eric slangen

Dean, I couldn’t agree more.

Jim Edwards

Thank you Paul for today’s ★


To be completely, and perfectly, honest – some comments just make me frown. This desire for a pristine, mint, copy of a sad indictment on where we are today.

Of course no-one wants a crushed copy. No-one wants a new product that looks like a secondhand one. On the other hand, people are so precious about their music these days that it’s laughable, to be frank. I remember back in the 70’s, when Vinyl was the thing. Record covers wore. If they were packed tight, the circle of the album would be clear. Corners got bent, covers got coffee spilt on them, fingerprints, goodness knows what. Each copy was, in short, unique. It was okay for something to looked used, loved, enjoyed.

Fast forward to 2017 and people send things back because a spine has a crease. A spine. You know, those things that get creased. £10 for three discs, and people are moaning about a crinkle. Blimey.

Send the hate my way, set the flamethrowers on. I think some of you need to lighten up. It’s the music that counts.


You’re here at Superdeluxe Edition
How can you say its the music that counts?

Chris Squires

Have to agree… the comments of “Even at this price I think I will pass” (paraphrasing) are stunning.
£10… for three CDs, for over two hours of top notch music…..

It’s a great price for a great album, but what with downloading / torrenting etc. I feel many think they have a right to free music but that’s an argument for elsewhere. Ten quid for Before the Dawn is a bargain. To think that somebody who wants the album, wants to hear the music, an album that had years of preparation, pain and anguish poured into it, two years of post production and so on and a tenner is too much? Now if you can’t bear KT then fair enough, a tenner for a quad Mettallica vinyl would be £10 too much for me but to have that said over something you would want to hear is just gobsmacking. Artists must just be heartbroken that it has come to this.

Derek Langsford

I agree it is the music that counts which makes me question the tolerance of the flaws of vinyl over the clean sound of digital , especially hi-res digital, which to my ears sounds better than what I remember vinyl to sound like.

I used to buy poly-lined inner sleeves and plastic cover protectors when I bought a vinyl album back in the 70s and 80s. I have replaced cracked or scuffed jewel cases, and even super jewel cases when my Queen remaster CDs came with smashed cases but being in the USA all Amazon UK were willing to do was take a quid off each CD. Crushable or compressible packaging is the issue for new product. I even think my Before the Dawn was creased when shrink wrapped too tightly with the spines not perpendicular to the front and back.

For used product, you take your chances.


While I totally agree with your final statement, it’s the music that counts, I have to say that the comparison with old vinyl is a bit ridicolous. I guess that people who take care with their records would have kept them in nice condition in the 70s too, and people who treat their stuff with no care have horribly worn records in 2017, regardless of the type of packaging. I had to complain about sloppy packaging in other discussions, because I had myself CDs delivered to me in very bad condition, despite being new. But I never sent back anything because of a creased spine or whatever else damage to the packaging. I believe that people is right in complaining though, companies use very poor material, quality-wise, these days.


Even at this price I’ll join Miguel in the queue for the video release. Shame the HMV price wasn’t flagged up though, if i was buying this I’d get it from there (fortunate enough to have several nearby), no need to wait, and no need to spend £20 to avoid postage. On a point of pedantry, shouldn’t these should be termed ‘Offer Alerts’? Amazon are offering a deal, it only becomes a deal when another party agrees to accept the offer. The offer comes before the deal so it should be an offer alert.

Pete Anderson

Have to agree with Miguel – bought this on the (9th) wave of pre-release excitement but finding it somewhat unengaging as an audio only experience. Am sure it is a worthy memento for those lucky enough to be there though.


I got mine for a respectable price upon release here in the states from importCDs, $18.99. The only problem is that there is a slight amount of crushing on the lower part of the spine. This was something which I considered a return over because the collector in me hates it when this happens (Suede and J&MC deluxe reissues, I’m looking at you as well). Not wanting the hassle, I just sucked it up and filed it in my collection and it certainly isn’t as noticeable as the 4 out of 5 of my Suedes which have heavy visible creasing.

My point is that a release as important as Kate Bush, not to mention the significant price given to it compared to other 3 disc sets, should have been subject to a more lavish and sturdy package like we have with the Alison Moyet and Bananarama deluxe issues. It really makes one wonder what the powers that be are thinking when this stuff is conceived.

David M

That’s why it’s (now) 10 quid. If you want better packaging then you pay more. Would you rather have the music at 10 pounds or 30 pounds in a sturdy box?

Richard Dowling

Ta Paul, done. Saw ya raving down the front last Sunday.

Miguel Rocha

This sounds lovely but I’m not biting until there’s visual accompaniment.


That could be a very long wait Miguel….


Nothing to do with Kate Bush, just wanted to say I like the tribute to David Bowie – subtle and nice.


HMV were selling this at £9.99 the other day instore, which is a lot less than I paid them the day it came out….


That is a very good price. It has been €24 since release in Ireland.

Le Baron

Thanks for the alert, Paul.
And thanks as well for the temporary ‘Backstar’ logo on top of the site! Love it <3


Me too !!!!!


I noticed this too, very cool :)


Seems they’ve price-matched Sainsbury’s, where it was £10 at the weekend.

ian s

It’s also £9.99 at HMV online (possibly instore as well)


I can confirm £9.99 in HMV. I will be picking up a copy from there.

In store I can choose a copy without ‘crunched’ corners. I hate the current trend for paper based packaging, hardly ever get a mint copy online, always has some damage. Go back to CD cases – at least you can replace broken ones.


You’re here at Superdeluxe Edition
How can you ask for the most boring packaging music has ever seen?

Charles K.

I agree with Martin, I rarely buy digipacks online due to damage in shipping. I save all of those for record stores, luckily there are still a lot left in the Pacific NW.

I will say, though, that my copy of It’s Immaterial sent by SDE arrived in perfect condition!

Scott T.

Ironically, I never buy Retail if I can avoid it. Reason being… vinyl records in a retail environment (unless special-ordered and waiting for you) get banged and dinged and creased all over, show album wear within just a few careless sets of hands. Any vinyl record that I buy, particularly with Amazon, that arrives in less than MINT vinyl and cover, get returned and they replace my orders by shipping a new copy out for “next day arrival”.

Scott T.

Not discounting anyone’s preference on this site, but CD’s are a dead format. You will continue to watch their value and their volume sales drop year-after-year. I’ve moonlighted at Everyday Music, Music Millennium and Tower Records (when one existed here). They all carry used CD’s, and Everyday Music? Has stopped purchasing CD’s from customers (when I worked there, we’d often process complete collections of CD’s from sellers. Now, the only thing they take in, in CD-format, are from local artists that they highlight as well. Their take (which they see day in and day out in their 5 city-block wide and tall locations in Portland and Seattle). Music Millennium? You can tell as they shift products over the course of two-stories and 6 different departments, that they are preparing for a major switch in their 45+ year retail store that’s an icon here in PDX. And that switch is going to be vinyl trumping CD’s in the main, two story portion of the store, and the CD’s are going to be fully relocated to the smallest section of the entire store. Time will tell, I guess. But my investment in buying more CD’s (my collection stands at nearly 10,000 CD’s and another 4,000 LP’s) was only used in 2015 and 2016 for items that are not going to be released on vinyl any time soon. So certainly, the packages promoted here are special issue, and yes, I have bought a few of them and love them. But not like I love vinyl. : )