It’s Immaterial on recording their classic single Driving Away From Home

It’s Immaterial discuss their biggest hit single

In an exclusive extract from the sleeve notes of the 30th anniversary deluxe edition of It’s Immaterial‘s Life’s Hard And Then You Die, the band, producer and record company A&R man tell the story in their own words of how the track was recorded and how despite its success, it should have performed much better than it did in the UK charts…

Personnel: John Campbell (lead singer – It’s Immaterial), Jarvis Whitehead (multi-instrumentalist, It’s Immaterial), Dave Bates – producer of Life’s Hard And Then You Die, Ross Stapleton: A&R man for the band.

JOHN CAMPBELL: It was Siren’s choice to try to team us up with a member of Talking Heads to produce Driving Away From Home, wasn’t it?

JARVIS WHITEHEAD: Yes. Ross [Stapleton] had David Byrne in mind but he was busy working with Eno.

JOHN: So their management suggested Jerry Harrison and the record label sent us out to Milwaukee to record Driving Away From Home. I remember landing in Chicago and one of those stretch limousines taking us from Chicago to Milwaukee, through this snowstorm, so it was a fun trip. When we arrived, there was a rhythm section that Jerry had hired; bass player, drummer. Jarvis usually played the bass, so immediately it was like “who is going to play the bass on this?” There wasn’t any kind of travelling, country and western type of songs here in Britain, so we wanted to make something like that. But we didn’t want to make a pastiche of a country and western track; we wanted to make something very British. But I think Jerry Harrison had the idea that he would get in good Nashville musicians, or something, and we would make a country and western track out of it, except with a British, or English lyric over the top. We started recording this rhythm section. It wasn’t particularly working for Jarvis and I.

JARVIS: I remember it being a little awkward for us. We were in a foreign place; a bit naïve and not quite sure what to do. Jerry seemed to have in mind a more authentic sounding version of the song. We envisaged a more modern take on the classic American road song, but with a British narrative. We diplomatically got rid of each musician until we were left with the drummer. Eventually we got the dreamy and syncopated keyboard parts from Jerry that we had hoped for.

JOHN: He recognised – as these musicians were putting down their backing track – that Jarvis and I were beginning to look a bit grumpy about things. We were trying our best to engage and look positive, but we were not really that happy about it. And we had already had conversations about how when we got back to Britain, we could go into a studio and do our own version of it. At six o’clock in the evening, Jerry Harrison would leave the studio and go home, and this guy offered to work with us on a separate multi-track.

JARVIS: Yes, we had two multi-tracks, one for when Jerry came in and one for when we were working on our own, when he wasn’t there!

JOHN: Jerry did some great stuff, what he was known to be good at and creative with, like the keyboards, some really, really good stuff; we kept all those parts. We really just didn’t want this American country and western rhythm section. So we took the multi-tracks back to the UK with us to mix and the first mixes that we offered were really based on our multi-track. I remember Jerry Harrison got a bit disgruntled about that. We didn’t mean to put his nose out of joint; it is just what we wanted. We went to the studio with Dave Bascombe and mixed Driving Away From Home. The American recording was definitely before the Christmas of 1985, it was about the second week in December. So I think we must have gone in early in ’86 with Dave – January or February.

ROSS STAPLETON: I had been away in Australia for Christmas ’84 and only heard the result when I got back to London in January. I was shocked. Given this was so early in our relationship after signing them, being told we needed to salvage it with a new producer didn’t exactly delight them, and provided some additional pressure to get it right. I sought out Chris Hughes, whose work I loved on Tears for FearsSongs From the Big Chair, but I was told he was unavailable. A mate who also managed several producers, knowing my situation, suggested Dave Bascombe who had engineered Big Chair. So we went into the studio with Dave and straight away it was a magic fit which green lit him doing the album.

DAVE BASCOMBE: When I first heard it, I remember I was doing a Tears For Fears session, and we listened to it, and we all thought it was great, except the drums were stupid, they just went “boof-baff, boof-baff, boofbaff…” like some sort of comedy record. It’s interesting about perspectives, because to us it sounded like a Benny Hill record or something. The basic premise was wrong, even though a lot of Jerry’s overdubs were brilliant. So that’s why they fell out. John and Jarvis had done the song originally with a Roland 808 – the same beat, but a nice gentle beat. I ended up replacing Jerry’s snare with an 808 snare and lightened it up a bit, but we kept a lot of the music. We got a girl singer in, Merran Laginestra, who was a solo act on Siren. In the end, Jerry wanted his name taken off it.

JARVIS: We didn’t go out that much in Milwaukee, but one night we went for a drink downtown with Jerry. It was quite a big bar, you know, classic American, darkly lit, with a small stage. A blues band was playing. One of them shouted out, “oh, we heard Jim’s in town”, and Jim Lieber got on stage, didn’t he? He started playing the harmonica and straight away it was obvious that he was a virtuoso. I don’t know whether Jerry knew he was going to perform that night but, it was just what we needed…

JOHN: So he came down the following morning and quickly laid down a couple of tracks and then nipped to the airport, because he was off back to Nashville. But he was fantastic what he did.

JARVIS: He was great. Yes, it was just one of those moments, and it was so good we credited him in the title of the song, didn’t we? “Jim’s tune.” I felt Driving Away From Home had something about it. Especially the way it turned out after we’d worked on it with Dave in London. It had finally ended up as we had originally conceived it – a British on-the-road song with, a strong forward dynamic with interesting events and textures. John’s narration was at the heart of it though; it was a really nice idea. It was a surprise when it started getting daytime plays on the radio – we thought it may get on the evening shows. But then for two weeks it was a massive turntable hit. It got more plays than George Michael, didn’t it?

JARVIS: It seems like it could have made it to a much higher chart position. But what the hell, it doesn’t matter now.

JOHN: I know that during one of the marketing meetings, it was decided to pull out the team from working this single and go and market one of the other acts, because they thought it had legs, it will work for itself. And of course it stalled.

ROSS: Virgin blew it after it got to number 18, not only because they stopped working it… they committed the most cardinal sin in the record business, they ran out of stock; although I only found this out from the head of WEA who phoned me himself to tell me what his own sales team has reported back to him.

Interviews conducted by Paul Sinclair. Read more from John, Jarvis, Dave and Ross as they discuss each track on the album in the booklet within the two-CD massively expanded Life’s Hard And Then You Die.

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Robert Morgenstern

Bad news for the crowd founded album “house for sale” on pledge. Seems that the platform will announce insolvency and the Band is still waiting of money from them to complete the album. I have pleadged in September 2016 for it and hope the Band will find another way to produce the nearly finished Album so that i can buy it again.

DJ Salinger

Another reliably satisfying reissue, Paul: great effort. Letting the band do the talking for the sleeve notes is far more illuminating than the usual ‘potted history’ essay approach. It’s been a pleasure to spend some time with this album again and hear additional material from that era that I missed out on at the time. What strikes me all these years down the line is how fresh LHATYD sounds; they didn’t ‘fit in’ with the times and that’s to their advantage – artistically, if not commercially.

But as others have previously commented, here’s hoping it does well enough for those early singles to also get the reissue treatment, along with ‘Song’.

PS. And still the best ‘scary -clown-with-Hitler-moustache- accessory’ album artwork ever…

Thomas Braun

At iTunes Germany there is a Heavy price for the Deluxe Edition 34,99 €.
So i’m happy about my physical Deluxe Edition


Mine arrived today and I’m listening to it now. I’m listening to it all in order so I haven’t got to the bonus material yet, but its one of my favourite albums of the 80s and it sounds great. I was going to comment that there wasnt a picture of of John with a bucket on his head, but I found it on the last page of the booklet, so it ticks all the boxes for me.

I assume the rights would be more problematic, but if there was any chance of a similar package to gather together the pre-Siren material, it would get an enthusiastic thumbs-up from me.


Listened to my copy on my ipod today, fantastic. The extended versions are so good, some of the best that came out that decade. Great package. Well done Paul and thanks.

Ian Murphy

I’ve been listening to this over the last couple of days and I have to say that you’ve done a fantastic job with this Paul. There’s so much stuff on it that I never imagined would ever turn up on CD. Thank you


Just received mine, lovely piece of work, thanks Paul.


Thanks! Printed this out, ready to put with the album when it arrives here in Oz. :)

Robert Morgenstern

Thank you for the information. Ordered mine.

Mike the Fish

I loved this article. Thanks, Paul.


See this is why the download era is SO much better, you can never run out of stock with an mp3. He says, only half seriously.

I must admit I expected the single to keep climbing a lot higher than #18.


The Sleeve is top and i like it much.
the booklet is printed very well, too.
The Sound is Awesome!!!
so much better the the original CD with the 3 Bonus tracks UK 1986.
Paul you have done a great job at this one.
Tomorrow morning i will listen to through earphones at the way to work.
This will not leave the cd-player for months.
sorry for my english


mine arrived today,
in a few minutes i will listen and enjoy the two cds

Paul Murphy

A propos of not this, but no lead has come up elsewhere to post it, isn’t it about time The Silencers had their catalogue polished and unsilenced?


Delighted to read this, the 808 is such an enduring characteristic of the whole album.

“I like that shop, too… you can get anything there.”