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Edsel to fix Dead Or Alive box set errors

Dead Or Alive / Sophisticated Boom Box MMXVI 19-disc box set

A number of errors which have come to light with regards to the brand new Dead Or Alive box set Sophisticated Boom Box MMXVI (out today) will be corrected by Edsel.

These errors have already been picked on by a number of fans and SDE readers and are all related to the Youthquake CDs in the box set. The issues are as follows:

Youthquake CD1:

  • My Heart Goes Bang (7” version) repeats the album version

Youthquake CD1 and CD2:

  • Both discs are in MONO not stereo

Edsel will get new discs pressed and all fans will have to do is send an email (to be confirmed soon) to get replacements sent out to them. No proof of purchase or other messing around will be necessary. Fans who have bought the box will just need to provide an address for the replacement discs to be send to.

The vinyl box will not be affected, although it has now gone back a week to 16 December 2016.

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In the box set:

‘Sophisticated Boom Boom’ (2CD)
‘Youthquake’ (3CD)
‘Mad, Bad And Dangerous To Know’ (2CD)
‘Rip It Up’ (2CD)
‘Nude’/‘Nude Remade Remodelled’ (2CD)
‘Fan The Flame, Part 1’ (1CD)
‘Nukleopatra’ (2CD)
‘Fragile’/’Unbreakable – The Fragile Remixes’ (3CD)
DVD1: Promotional videos
DVD2: ‘Rip It Up Live’ in Japan at the height of their international fame and a selection of UK TV appearances.

1984 SOPHISTICATED BOOM BOOM

CD1

  • 1 I’d Do Anything
  • 2 That’s The Way (I Like It)
  • 3 Absolutely Nothing
  • 4 What I Want
  • 5 Far Too Hard
  • 6 You Make Me Wanna
  • 7 Sit On It
  • 8 Wish You Were Here
  • 9 Misty Circles
  • 10 Do It

Bonus Tracks

  • 11 Selfish Side
  • 12 Misty Circles [7″ Version]
  • 13 What I Want [7″ Version]
  • 14 I’d Do Anything [7″ Version]
  • 15 That’s The Way (I Like It) [7″ Version]

CD2

  • 1 Misty Circles [Dance Mix]
  • 2 What I Want [Original Dance Mix]
  • 3 I’d Do Anything [Megamix]
  • 4 That’s The Way (I Like It) [Extended Version]
  • 5 What I Want [1984 Dance Mix]
  • 6 What I Want [1984 7″ Remix]
  • 7 Give It To Me [BBC Session]
  • 8 Misty Circles [Dub Mix]
  • 9 That’s The Way (I Like It) [Dub] – previously unreleased
  • 10 Absolutely Nothing [Dub] – previously unreleased
  • 11 Misty Circles [Instrumental]
  • 12 Keep That Body Strong (That’s The Way)

1985 YOUTHQUAKE

CD1

  • 1 You Spin Me Round (Like A Record)
  • 2 I Wanna Be A Toy
  • 3 DJ Hit That Button
  • 4 In Too Deep
  • 5 Big Daddy Of The Rhythm
  • 6 Cake And Eat It
  • 7 Lover Come Back To Me
  • 8 My Heart Goes Bang
  • 9 It’s Been A Long Time

Bonus Tracks

  • 10 You Spin Me Round [Murder Mix]
  • 11 In Too Deep [7″ Remix]
  • 12 My Heart Goes Bang [7″ Version]
  • 13 Lover Come Back To Me [Extended Version]
  • 14 My Heart Goes Bang [Extended Version]

CD2

  • 1 In Too Deep [Off Yer Mong Mix]
  • 2 You Spin Me Round [Performance Mix]
  • 3 Lover Come Back To Me [Extended Remix]
  • 4 My Heart Goes Bang [American WIPE-OUT Mix]
  • 5 You Spin Me Round [Alt. Album CD Version with ‘Rock It’ intro]
  • 6 Cake And Eat It [Alt. Album CD Version with unfaded intro]
  • 7 It’s Been A Long Time [Alt. Album CD Version with ‘You Can Be The First…’ intro]
  • 8 You Spin Me Round [Big Ben Mix]
  • 9 Lover Come Back To Me [7″ Bonus Mix]
  • 10 I Wanna Be A Toy [Instrumental] – previously unreleased
  • 11 Lover Come Back To Me [Instrumental] – previously unreleased
  • 12 In Too Deep [Instrumental]
  • 13 My Heart Goes Bang [Instrumental]

CD3: The Youthquake Tour – Live At Hammersmith Odeon, 6th July 1985

  • 1 Cake And Eat It [Live]
  • 2 My Heart Goes Bang [Live] – previously unreleased
  • 3 In Too Deep [Live]
  • 4 Big Daddy Of The Rhythm [Live]
  • 5 Far Too Hard [Live] – previously unreleased
  • 6 Misty Circles [Live] – previously unreleased
  • 7 It’s Been A Long Time [Live] – previously unreleased
  • 8 Lover Come Back To Me [Live] – previously unreleased
  • 9 DJ Hit That Button [Live] – previously unreleased
  • 10 What I Want [Live] – previously unreleased
  • 11 You Spin Me Round [Live] – previously unreleased
  • 12 In Too Deep [Encore] [Live]  – previously unreleased
  • 13 My Heart Goes Bang [Encore] [Live]  – previously unreleased
  • 14 You Spin Me Round [Encore] [Live] – previously unreleased

1986 MAD, BAD AND DANGEROUS TO KNOW

CD1

  • 1 Brand New Lover
  • 2 I’ll Save You All My Kisses
  • 3 Son Of A Gun
  • 4 Then There Was You
  • 5 Come Inside
  • 6 Something In My House
  • 7 Hooked On Love
  • 8 I Want You
  • 9 Special Star

Bonus Tracks

  • 10 Come Inside [7″ Mix]
  • 11 I Want You [7″ Mix]
  • 12 Brand New Lover [Edit]
  • 13 Something In My House [7″ Remix]
  • 14 Hooked On Love [Edit]
  • 15 I’ll Save You All My Kisses [Remix]
  • 16 Something In My House [Flamenco Version]
  • 17 Hooked On Love [7″ Remix]

CD2

  • 1 Brand New Lover [The Dust Monkey’s Love Bubble Club Mix]
  • 2 Something In My House [Mortevicar Mix]
  • 3 Hooked On Love [The Big Revolver Mix]
  • 4 I’ll Save You All My Kisses [The Sonia Mezumbda Memorial Mix]
  • 5 Brand New Lover [Up Ducky Mix]
  • 6 Something In My House [7″ US Wipe-Out Mix]
  • 7 Something In My House [12″ US Wipe-Out Mix Part 2]
  • 8 I’ll Save You All My Kisses [The Long Wet Sloppy Kiss Mix]
  • 9 Hooked On Love [La Vie En Rose Mix]
  • 10 Brand New Lover [Instrumental]
  • 11 Something In My House [House Instrumental]
  • 12 Hooked On Love [Instrumental] – previously unreleased
  • 13 Something In My House [7″ Instru-MENTAL Mix]

1987 RIP IT UP

CD1

  • 1 Brand New Lover [continuously mixed]
  • 2 My Heart Goes Bang [continuously mixed]
  • 3 Something In My House [continuously mixed]
  • 4 Lover Come Back To Me [continuously mixed]
  • 5 You Spin Me Round (Like A Record) [continuously mixed]
  • 6 I’ll Save You All My Kisses [continuously mixed]
  • 7 In Too Deep [continuously mixed]
  • 8 Hooked On Love [continuously mixed]

Bonus Tracks

  • 9 Mighty Mix [Part 1] – Wish You Were Here, What I Want, Do It, Misty Circles
  • 10 Mighty Mix [Part 2] Absolutely Nothing, Sit On It, You Make Me Wanna, That’s The Way (I Like It)
  • 11 Something In My House [Naughty XXX Mix]
  • 12 Baby Don’t Say Goodbye [The Powerful Club Twelve]
  • 13 Something In My House [Short Version]

CD2

  • 1 Baby Don’t Say Goodbye [Club Mix]
  • 2 Baby Don’t Say Goodbye [Instrumental]
  • 3 You Spin Me Round [Jail House Club Edit Remix]
  • 4 You Spin Me Round [Jail House Club Remix]
  • 5 You Spin Me Round [400 Hz – Kleopatra Remix]
  • 6 You Spin Me Round [400 Hz – Marc Antoine Remix]
  • 7 You Spin Me Round [Edouard’s Mix]
  • 8 You Spin Me Round [Kalk’s Underground Mix]
  • 9 You Spin Me Round [Blue Sky Mix]
  • 10 You Spin Me Round [The Yummi Extended Mix]
  • 11 You Spin Me Round [The Yummi 4am Mix]
  • 12 You Spin Me Round [The Vicious Mix]
  • 13 MEDLEY: Turn Around And Count 2 Ten/Blue Christmas /Your Sweetness [Accapella] (Live In Nagoya, Japan 29 November 1990)

1989 NUDE

CD1

  • 1 Turn Around And Count 2 Ten
  • 2 Give It Back (That Love Is Mine)
  • 3 Baby Don’t Say Goodbye
  • 4 Stop Kicking My Heart Around
  • 5 Come Home (With Me Baby)
  • 6 I Don’t Wanna Be Your Boyfriend
  • 7 Get Out Of My House
  • 8 I Cannot Carry On
  • 9 My Forbidden Lover

Bonus Tracks

  • 10 Give It Back (That Love Is Mine) [Instrumental]
  • 11 Baby Don’t Say Goodbye [Alternative Mix]
  • 12 Love Toy [inst. version]
  • 13 Turn Around And Count 2 Ten [7″ Version]
  • 14 Come Home (With Me Baby) [7″ Version]
  • 15 Baby Don’t Say Goodbye [Edited House Version]
  • 16 Love Toy [Full Vocal Version] – previously unreleased
  • 17 Come Home (With Me Baby) [The Deadhouse Dub 7″ Edit]
  • 18 Baby Don’t Say Goodbye [Radio Edit]

CD2: Nude: Remade Remodelled

  • 1 Come Home (With Me Baby) [Remade Remodelled]
  • 2 Baby Don’t Say Goodbye [Remade Remodelled]
  • 3 Stop Kicking My Heart Around [Remade Remodelled]
  • 4 I Don’t Wanna Be Your Boyfriend [Remade Remodelled]
  • 5 Give It Back (That Love Is Mine) [Remade Remodelled]
  • 6 Turn Around And Count 2 Ten [Remade Remodelled]
  • 7 Come Home (With Me Baby) [12″ Version]

Bonus Tracks

  • 8 Baby Don’t Say Goodbye [Extended Mix]
  • 9 Turn Around And Count 2 Ten [The Pearl And Dean “I Love” BPM Mix]
  • 10 Come Home (With Me Baby) [The Deadhouse Dub]
  • 11 Turn Around And Count 2 Ten [The Pearl And Dean “I Had A Disco Dream” Mix]
  • 12 Turn Around And Count 2 Ten [Instru-MENTAL]
  • 13 Come Home (With Me Baby) [Instru-MENTAL] – previously unreleased

1990 FAN THE FLAME (Part 1)

CD1

  • 1 Fan The Flame (feat. Gina X) – previously unreleased
  • 2 Unhappy Birthday
  • 3 Your Sweetness (Is Your Weakness)
  • 4 Total Stranger
  • 5 Gone 2 Long
  • 6 Lucky Day
  • 7 What Have U Done (2 Make Me Change)
  • 8 And Then I Met U
  • 9 Blue Christmas

Bonus Tracks

  • 10 Total Stranger [Remix]
  • 11 Unhappy Birthday [Heavy Metal Version]
  • 12 Your Sweetness (Is Your Weakness) [Instrumental]

1995 NUKLEOPATRA

CD1

  • 1 Nukleopatra
  • 2 Rebel Rebel
  • 3 Sleep With You
  • 4 The Right Stuff
  • 5 I’m A Star
  • 6 International Thing
  • 7 Picture This
  • 8 Spend The Night Together
  • 9 Gone Too Long
  • 10 Getting It On
  • 11 Sex Drive

Bonus Track

12 You Spin Me Round [Sugar Pumpers Radio Mix]

CD2

  • 1 Rebel Rebel [12″ Extended Mix]
  • 2 The Right Stuff [1994 Mix]
  • 3 You Spin Me Round [Sugar Pumpers Extended Mix]
  • 4 Sex Drive [Sugar Pumpers Extended Mix]
  • 5 International Thing [International 7″ Edit]
  • 6 Rebel Rebel [The Hole Mix]
  • 7 Sex Drive [Scream Driven Remix]
  • 8 International Thing [Nu-NRG 7″ Remix]
  • 9 Rebel Rebel [Safe Hands Remix]
  • 10 You Spin Me Round [Sugar Pumpers Pumpin’ Mix]
  • 11 Sex Drive [Peewee’s Extended Mix]
  • 12 International Thing [Nu-NRG 12″ Remix]

2000 FRAGILE

CD1

  • 1 Hit And Run Lover
  • 2 Something In My House [2000]
  • 3 Even Better Than The Real Thing [2000]
  • 4 Turn Around And Count 2 Ten [2000]
  • 5 I Paralyze
  • 6 Isn’t It A Pity?
  • 7 You Spin Me Round (Like A Record) [2000]
  • 8 Just What I Always Wanted
  • 9 My Heart Goes Bang [2000]
  • 10 Lover Come Back To Me [2000]
  • 11 I Promised Myself
  • 12 Blue Christmas 2000

CD2 – Unbreakable – The Fragile Remixes

  • 1 Turn Around And Count 2 Ten [Y&Co. “B” Mix]
  • 2 You Spin Me Round [Zi Zone Mix]
  • 3 My Heart Goes Bang [Love Machine Remix]
  • 4 Something In My House [Deadend Of Eurasia Mix]
  • 5 Hit And Run Lover [Ventura Mix]
  • 6 Isn’t It A Pity [Bustard Remix]
  • 7 I Paralyze [B4 ZA BEAT Remix]
  • 8 Blue Christmas [P.K.G. Remix]
  • 9 Lover Come Back To Me [Earthquake Mix]
  • 10 Just What I Always Wanted [R.M. Hyper Techno Mix]

CD3

  • 1 You Spin Me Round [Punx Soundcheck Vs Princess Julia]
  • 2 You Spin Me Round [Mark Moore & Mr Motion Remix]
  • 3 You Spin Me Round [D-Bop Club Mix]
  • 4 You Spin Me Round [Metro 7″ Edit]
  • 5 Hit And Run Lover [Bonus Hit Remix]
  • 6 You Spin Me Round [Metro 12″ Extended Mix]
  • 7 Pop Life
  • 8 Why’s It So Hard
  • 9 Jack & Jill Party – Pet Shop Boys Feat. Pete Burns
  • 10 Never Marry An Icon – Pete Burns vs The Dirty Disco
  • 11 The Art – Pete Burns vs The Dirty Disco – previously unreleased

DVD1: PROMOTIONAL VIDEOS

  • 1 I’d Do Anything [Promo Video]
  • 2 That’s The Way (I Like It) [Promo Video]
  • 3 You Spin Me Round (Like A Record) [Promo Video]
  • 4 Lover Come Back To Me [Promo Video]
  • 5 In Too Deep [Promo Video]
  • 6 My Heart Goes Bang [Promo Video]
  • 7 Something In My House [Promo Video]
  • 8 Hooked On Love [Promo Video]
  • 9 I’ll Save You All My Kisses [Promo Video]
  • 10 Brand New Lover [12″] [Promo Video]
  • 11 Something In My House [12″] [Promo Video]
  • 12 Come Home (With Me Baby) [Promo Video]
  • 13 Turn Around And Count 2 Ten [12″] [Promo Video]
  • 14 Come Home (With Me Baby) [12″] [Promo Video]
  • 15 Your Sweetness (Is Your Weakness) [Promo Video]
  • 16 Total Stranger [Ruff Promo Video]
  • 17 Rebel Rebel [Promo Video]
  • 18 Sex Drive [Promo Video]
  • 19 Hit And Run Lover [Promo Video]
  • 20 You Spin Me Round (Like A Record) [2003] [Promo Video]

DVD 2: CONCERT FEATURE & TV PERFORMANCES

CONCERT FEATURE: ‘Rip It Up Live’ – Japan, 1987

  • 1 Hooked On Love [Live]
  • 2 My Heart Goes Bang [Live]
  • 3 You Spin Me Round (Like A Record) [Live]
  • 4 Lover Come Back To Me [Live]
  • 5 Brand New Lover [Live]
  • 6 I’ll Save You All My Kisses [Live]
  • 7 In Too Deep [Live]
  • 8 Something In My House [Live]
  • 9 Come Inside [Live]
  • 10 Son Of A Gun [Live]
  • 11 I’ll Save You All My Kisses [Encore] [Live]

TV PERFORMANCES

  • 12 That’s The Way (I Like It) [on ‘Top Of The Pops’] TX 12/04/1984
  • 13 You Spin Me Round (Like A Record) [on ‘Top Of The Pops’] TX 14/02/1985
  • 14 Lover Come Back To Me [on ‘Top Of The Pops’] TX 1985
  • 15 In Too Deep [on ‘Top Of The Pops’] TX 1985
  • 16 Lover Come Back To Me [on ‘The Kenny Everett Television Show’] TX 11/05/1985
  • 17 In Too Deep [on ‘Wogan’] TX 17/06/1985
  • 18 You Spin Me Round (Like A Record) [on ‘Christmas Top Of The Pops’] TX 25/12/1985
  • 19 Brand New Lover [on ‘Wogan’] TX 1986
  • 20 Brand New Lover [on ‘Roland Rat: The Series’] TX 1986
  • 21 Something In My House [on ‘Top Of The Pops’] TX 22/01/1987
  • 22 You Spin Me Round (Like A Record) [on ‘Blue Peter’] TX 10/01/2003

 

 

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Gary Hunter

Unbelievable!!

Just reading various comments about the vinyl box set version and one side of the “Nude” LP it has been pressed with “Elvis and the Royal Philharmonic Orchestra” on some released copies……How the hell can a mistake like that be made in this day and age!!!

Keezy

Go have a look at the photos on the Dead Or Alive Bristar page. Many people reporting the Boom Box package is warping! So awful : (

Grumpyoldgoth

I haven’t bought the box yet… still planning…as usual errors… was the same with Simple Minds etc… now i see amazon says it’s due for release December 15…. does that mean Amazon took all the faulty boxes off the “shelf” and when i get a new one… all the faulty discs will be the new versions?

Anyone know how Amazon works in these situations? Sell the faulty stock and leave it to Edsel to ship the discs?

ENGLAND

Today, I received an e-mail from Demon informing me that they will replace my damaged booklet – so with that, i’m happy that Demon ARE doing all they can to rectify these errors.
As for Amazon – they would only entertain replacing the booklet if I returned the entire box set!
*sigh*

GG

Hi,

I received same information from Demon music service.

New stock for box cd will be error free as they change 8cd and the 2 dvd

They said to me that they’ll fix the vinyl box too.

Maybe they found some wrong thinks that’s why they delayed one week more till 16 december.

French amazon site will have the new stock too ^^

So will be faster to have it for me.

But as for people who can afford it, having 2 box cd and vinyl it’s good for collector.

One never opened and the other to play sometime too.

A lot of change, as a lot of customer was unpleased to see so much mistake.

That’s why Demon group changed 8cd and the 2 dvd.

Should other box will be better, i mean other brand and music group?

Also is there box from any brand without error or minor error?

Wait and see, the parcel reach each home too :-)

GG

Barry mason

Can’t believe the person complaining about the volume of the CDs being “too low”!

This just means that the music hasn’t been badly compressed. CDs that play at high volume are usually so badly compressed they are unlistenable.

Low volume is a good sign. After all you can always turn them up using volume controls, so it isn’t really an issue.

Thank goodness this box set didn’t go for “loudness” and preserved the integrity of the music.

Greg Daniels

It is possible to have higher volume while still keeping the integrity and quality of the original sound, when remastering. It is done all the time. More often than not. Could have been done for this release. But upon further listening, it is a bit better overall then I had thought, volume-wise. But I have found, still, the volume to be too low on many tracks. And not level across the whole she-bang. No biggie. I will survive. But it is my right as a life-long DOA fan to complain when an expensive package like this comes out and it is full of errors. Never-the-less, better than not at all, and so thrilled that they have fixed most of the issues and will be sending out replacement discs soon. Kudos!!!

Greg Daniels

OK, so in addition to all the other errors, another glaring problem is the volume. The volume is WAY TOO LOW on these tracks. It is a little lower than the Evolution release and A LOT LOWER than the “That’s The Way…Best Of”. There are SO MANY THINGS WRONG WITH THIS BOX SET. Dead or Alive was my favorite band of the 80’s. I had all but given up any hope of ever having “Youthquake” and “Mad, Bad…” remastered and expanded. Then months ago I heard of the boxset and IMMEDIATELY without hesitation pre-ordered the compilation. I could not believe it was actually coming to be. I don’t care for the last CD’s really past “Rip It Up”, but was worth the price just to get the others remastered at long last. Then Pete passed and I still cannot believe he is gone… especially with this massive release coming out. Then I hear about all the problems with the tracks, the audio, etc. And then I got my boxset yesterday and have spent hours going through the first few albums and there are all those things wrong with it we all have already pointed out, but across the ENTIRE THING the volume is WAY TOO LOW!!! It is just the most depressed I have ever been about a deluxe remaster like this. Pete must be rolling over in his grave with all the issues with this boxset. Pete and DOA deserve a fitting tribute, as do us long-term fans who have waited eons for this release. An error here or there is one thing, but a whole bunch of them, with poor quality across the whole thing… that is just unacceptable and I am shocked and dismayed that this happened. What a waste of time and money. I was hoping for something along the lines of ALL the amazing Bananarama re-issues, boxsets and deluxe editions of the past few years. I thought they were all just about perfection, with excellent sound quality, etc. This one is TERRIBLE!!!! The design itself is kinda cheesy if ask me. The huge box, identical-looking CD’s. Booklet.
PLEASE FIX ALL THE MISTAKES and send us new copies or else you should refund us or give us credits for future releases. For the record, I have been disappointed with the sound quality or volume level of at least a couple of other Deluxe Editions. Two that come right to mind are “Exposure” from Expose and “Songs From The Big Chair” by Tears For Fears. Both of those releases have such a low volume, it was like I was listening to the old CD’s, low low volume. Annoying…

Jim Edwards

You’re not the only one RickJapan.

Greg Daniels

Another error, I just discovered… not sure if it has been covered already. On the “Rip It Up” CD1, it says “Short Version” of “Something In My House”, but I am pretty sure that is exactly the same as the 7″ (single) version. Not the short edited down album version. You can find that one (on vinyl) at the Burning The Ground blog/website. So far, as I am slowly going through the whole package, I have not found many other errors that were not already pointed out. I am glad they are fixing the DOA masterpiece “Youthquake”. I also hope they fix CD1 of “Mad, Bad…”. Having the two blent songs in the middle abruptly stop and then start again, not even in the right place… that ruins the flow of the entire CD and should also be fixed. I will say that the booklet (which I read last night) is amazing. I got a signed print in there too. And it is SO WONDERFUL to have all this treasure on CD at long last. I just hope the bulk of the errors are to be fixed!!!

CDManiac

Has anyone gotten their confirmation e-mail from Edsel/Demon?

Kiefer2

Not me.

Fred

Apparently, Edsel needs a ears tout correct the errors on the box… Hey oh, the fans are here !!! And you can read this articles and the multiple post !!!

Keezy

I hope this gets passed along

The extended mix of Rebel Rebel that is missing is not an edited version of the Hole Mix. It is a mix unto its own. it has flamenco style guitar on it .

International Chrysis REBEL REBEL  Extended Mix W/L promo catalog number   

PWL International ‎– INTER 1

Discogs reference 

https://www.discogs.com/International-Chrysis-Rebel-Rebel/release/767633

Youtube to hear it 

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YIn3Ijlr6lQ

Bulldog

Hey, that’s an awesome mix! Much better than the “Hole”. It doesn’t look like it’s being corrected though? How was this missed! It’s unique.

soundstory

I have to say its been interesting scrolling through the comments today.

For those who are holding on to their faulty box sets because they believe that they will collector’s items in the future…

Are you serious?

Having a copy of Youthquake for example in mono doesn’t mean its rare

It means it’s faulty….

Ian
Andrea

After the Pretenders box, and the mess they made of it, I vowed I’d never buy Edsel again, no matter if it’s a favourite artist of mine.
Everything I’ve read since confirms me in my resolution

Ian Harris

I can only echo what some people have said above, it just seems bizarre to me that major quality control issues, like mono discs, escape. Or on the Thompson Twins A Product Of / Set CD having a track mastered from vinyl and playing at the wrong speed! I mean there are mistakes and there are mistakes…

Would it really be so hard to get known expert fans to check things over before they went to final manufacture? Personally speaking I’d be delighted to do that sort of thing and I’d be happy with a just thank you in the credits and knowing that I’d given fellow fans the sort of thing they’d appreciate. It would also be having pride in doing something to a gold standard.

Surely it makes more sense (economic if nothing else) to do this sort of thing than to have to order a corrected re-pressing, mail these out to everyone, recall the faulty sets or whatever. In my job I have a project management background and quality control is not something you should compromise for time reasons, that’s just bad practice and a no-no. That’s why newspapers have, or used to have, sub-editors and proof-readers. Of course no one is perfect but that’s why you have a second or third pair of eyes look things over.

Sam Matheson

This sort of thing happens so often, this site ought to have an “Errors and Replacements” sub-page to help inventory and keep track of these cock-ups.

Craig

Paul, just interested, but is this the most commented on topic in the site’s history?

Neil

I find it bizarre that people are leaving 5 star reviews for this box on Amazon when there are so many errors on it. Fair enough sometimes the wrong mix or whatever gets used which is understandable to an extent but the amount of errors on this and two discs being in mono is simply not acceptable and yes they have offered to replace the two mono discs but what are they chances of the other errors being fixed zilch i would say and i have read that the DVD’s are very poor quality as well. Hopefully this will make people think twice about preordering future releases from Edsel till they read the reviews first.

Michael R.

I am out of this boxset, glad that I did not pre-order.

GG

Hi,

Me Amazon service advice me to cancel it and wait till next stock on middle December.

Hope really that next stock will be better.

But will it be error free?

Will the vinyl box be error free too???

Gerald

Flex

WoW at all this comments

GG

Hi,

I just see that Amazon Uk delayed with one week more release of Vinyl box.

It’ll on stock on 16 December and new cd ox on 15 December.

Did Edsel notice something wrong on vinyl box???

Strange really.

For non Uk resident, it’ll we hard to receive box before Xmas…

Gerald.

No Excuses

The site owner writes :

“I don’t know how many music box sets you may have put together, but I can tell you from experience it is very, VERY difficult to produce a multi-disc set and not make a mistake somewhere, whether audio-related, an error in the notes, or some artwork not being correct. It just IS.”

You know what? I’m not buying that. You make it a POINT to have everything checked, double-checked, and triple-checked by different people all along the line. And THEN, maybe you even do a little research and find say 5 or 10 fans of the artist in question to further vet initial test pressings. And if the budget doesn’t extend to that being possible, then the project needs to be put aside. And if you do follow the above protocols, and there’s STILL something wrong with it, then whoever was responsible needs to be taken to task from it.

The other problem, quite obviously, is that a huge amount of these things are being put together by someone who has a “job” at the label, and has little to none of the knowledge needed in order to be able to get it right in the first place. But I’m sorry, the stances of “well at least most of it is right!”, and “there are bound to be mistakes” is misguided, a touch arrogant, and completely insulting to potential customers.

Adam

Right, because you’ve never made a mistake in your job, or the one time you did, you were immediately fired. Give me a break.

We are all human. Mistakes happen. Processes break down. As long as the company is willing to replace all the faulty discs, I don’t see an issue. (I see an issue with this box only because the company has not uet said they will replace ALL the faulty discs, but that’s a corporate problem.)

Everything you mention has a cost. A CD company has to balance the cost of doing business with the willingness of the CD-buying public to pay that cost. If your proposal (triple checked, fan involvement, etc.) made the project cost double, many people would not have bought it (I know I wouldn’t), so the set wouldn’t exist. Is that better? It’s a judgement call.

Basically, the company is betting that the process it has will work properly enough of a percentage of the time that the project usually comes out flawlessly, and when it doesn’t, they can make it up to the customer by repressing discs and mailing them out. If that percentage isn’t high enough, people avoid buying the company’s product in the future, and they go out of business. That should be enough of an incentive to get it right the vast majority of the time.

But to expect perfection every time is a dream. We don’t live in that dream, so let’s do the best with the world we’ve got and the imperfect humanity that lives and works there.

Rob

Sorry Adam but making excuses like that will only give record companies full permission to mess up again and again.
Fans would only be too happy to get involved in such projects and I imagine the lucky chosen ones would be satisfied with a free finished product as a compensation and wouldn’t ask for a full year salary.
We’re not talking philosophy and the meaning of life and the imperfection of the humanity here, we’re talking about a project that is being thought of and made by human beings, and goes through different stages of conception.
Sure some errors might slip through the cracks but in the end, yes, perfection is what must be aimed at, and that’s what customers are in right to ask for, especially if they have to spend quite a lot of money on a particular item.

Rob

I’m not an insider so I don’t know how the whole process was done, if it was mainly money motivated or whatever, and I certainly don’t intend to put the record company down.
What I mostly would like to underline (without any aggressivity by the way) is that it wouldn’t hurt record companies to do basic and complete check ups before release to ensure everything is as it is supposed to be.
I’m pretty sure die hard fans of any artist would be happy to oblige if financial cost is the problem.
That airplane example you give works both ways : do you think the airplane industry (or any industry for that matter, unless it’s morally corrupt) would let out potentially faulty pieces, and what do you think they’re doing to ensure the risk is at its lowest? Again, one or two mistakes might slip through the cracks. When a series of accidents start happening on a particular airline or product, something is clearly wrong.
To give you another example in another field, do you know how much food is controlled, even in the fast food industry, to ensure that the finished product is the best possible?
Again, it’s not about putting people down. What some may see as negativity is actually a form of encouragment to do better because both the artists and audience deserve it, and that can only profit to record companies too in the end.

Anthony

I prefer to view it a bit like this;

Edsel can do it “in-house”, use existing CD sources to master from where available, keep any master tape transferring to an absolute minimum (even if some cleaned up vinyl rips have to be used) and dress it up nicely. In this scenario, you save more money in the short term and come in under budget and on time.

Alternatively, they can bring in a freelancer, who will know the catalogue inside out and want to work from master tapes, needing more money, time, resources, etc. and might even need to push the date back to get everything done just right. In this scenario, you might exceed the budget and even miss the deadline.

In the first scenario, you risk damaging your reputation and forking out more money in the long term as you correct mistakes, replace discs and fight fires. Meanwhile, the growing negative feedback puts off customers, and potential working partners, severely hampering profits. Whereas in the second scenario, you’re less likely to do so and the initial outlay will be more than recouped by the recommendations and good press a good job well done will generate.

DMG are a business and they need to make money. They need to make money from us – the customers! The way I see it, they don’t look at the bigger picture and prefer to cut costs at ground level, penny pinching and tightening the purse strings, instead of spending the required time and money on the product they want us to buy.

Adam

To add to what Paul said here (thanks!), and to specifically address your comment, @Rob, I don’t agree that my comments “give record companies full permission to mess up again and again.” They should always aim for perfection, and customers should always demand it, and express their disappointment to the record companies when they don’t get it.

However, one has to acknowledge that in aiming for perfection, sometimes the record company will miss. As long as they are willing to own up to their errors, make them right, and endeavor to do better next time, then I’m willing to give them the benefit of the doubt. They’re not making medical devices. If it’s perfection or nothing, these companies won’t exist.

(If, over time, it becomes clear that they are not trying to do better, then yes, it seems logical to divert your monetary resources to companies that care more.)

Also, I want to address this idea that some number of super-fans could spot check these releases each time. This costs potentially a crippling amount of money and time. First of all, how do you find these super-fans? They’d have to be different for every project – no one is a super-fan of every band. You’d have to weed out real super-fans vs people who just want to be sent a freebie; how would you do that? Finally, how much time do you give them to find the errors? For a 17-CD/2-DVD set, it would have to be considerable. It would end up being a nearly unknown cost in money and time, which NO project manager worth their salt would ever agree to. And after all that, the end product will have a higher price tag, and you STILL might end up with errors in the product, and have to do disc exchanges regardless.

Clearly, every process is worth investigating to see if it can be improved. But everything has a cost, too. I’m willing to forgive occasional errors in exchange for repressed discs and keeping overall costs in check.

(I think the fact that this one release is so egregiously messed up is reducing the amount of forgiveness one might be willing to offer, and that’s fair. But I also believe that Edsel will learn from this situation, since their business effectively depends on it.)

No Excuses

“We are all human. Mistakes happen. Processes break down. But to expect perfection every time is a dream. We don’t live in that dream, so let’s do the best with the world we’ve got and the imperfect humanity that lives and works there.”

Translation : “Yeah, we could ATTEMPT at being better, but let’s just kick back, not strain ourselves, admit we kinda suck, and hope for the best.”

Excuse after excuse. Never ends. Never will.

Oh, and another thing – I cannot tell you how many releases and re-releases in the last five years have got simple audio errors that I can fix (and have fixed) in about 10 seconds myself in Audacity. And somebody is getting PAID for doing that kind of work? If there were enough hours in the day, maybe Steve Wilson could do every release on the planet. Sadly, there is not, and he cannot. So we get a lot “mistakes happening and processes breaking down.” Such a shame. Too bad we can’t change any of that, isn’t it?

Andrew Edwards

Well conceived and written Adam.

Shane

Dave: Edsel have only issued a statement about replacing the mono discs of Youthquake. No word on all the other issues, therefore any negative feelings about the set are warranted.
Also, Steve and Pete’s family I’m sure are not as superficial and lazy that they will stop at the fact that “oh all those negative comments” but will want to know where the reaction comes from, I really don’t think they are that gullible. If Pete had not been concerned about quality he would have saved all the catalogue as mp3 on one single bluray and called it a day but we all know that is not what he did so I truly believe he would be unhappy about the lack of attention given to the final product.

Peter: thank you for being attentive and I will do my best not to be provoked by those who seek reaction like those.

To all who are worrying about the sealed box and all: amazon have the best customer policy, if you are not happy with a product you can return it. If it was faulty, they usually refund you the postage as well, and the product price. I will certainly be keeping mine and will demand that Edsel replaces all the faulty tracks for sure. I have also ordered the vinyl….godknows what will be on those!

smirkdj

just got my box(159 Euro!!!),i don’t mind spending this amount for such great boxset but hope Edsel will replace ALL error discs soon(and maybe add something extra for
inconvenience,but i will be glad to actually receive the replacement discs)
RIP PETE!!!

ps:thx Paul for the great interview

Griffin

It’s diasappointing to read that this box has so many errors. Even more disappointing if not all errors will be corrected ;( Now I’m regretting that I had pre-ordered this. If I have waited, reading all the comments/reviews first & waited for the new “corrected” batch or waited even longer for the deal alert, then ordering it, it would save me lots of trouble, disappointments, money, etc etc etc.

What Edsel & all other companies/labels could/can do, is to bring someone onboard with some know how (like Paul Sinclair)! Or do some PR promotion like a competition on their social media giving away pre-production CDR-copies & waiting for the fan(s)’ feedbacks! If something is wrong then they could correct those errors ASAP before the production or no problems then green light it for the production.

Craig

Honestly, I can see both sides of this issue.

This is an expensive product, and if a fan is going to spend hard-earned money on it, and there are several major errors, I can see the frustration. A mis-labeled mix with a few seconds difference? Eh. A gap between songs rather than a direct segue. Eh. I can live with it. Most people (i.e. non-hardcore fans) would never notice it. Mono rather than stereo? That’s a whopper and just horrible QC.

However, the company is replacing the mono discs. Is it inconvenient? Of course. Is it frustrating? Of course. But they quickly acknowledged the error and are correcting it with minimal effort on the consumer’s part.

I also understand this set is mainly aimed at hard-core fans. A casual Youthquake-era fan isn’t shelling out all that cash. Based on that, I might have had someone with a big DOA background listen to the final product before going to print. What does it add to the release time – a week? It would have saved a lot of negative reviews/comments from fans who picked up on this stuff right away. At that point, they could make a decision as to what to let go and what not to. Most likely, the only fix would have been the stereo/mono thing, but that would lessened the complaining by most but the hard-hard-core. For the rest of them, they could have noted them with an insert and updated their product data sheet. Then consumers could decide whether to still buy it or not.

QC is a costly undertaking. It is non-value added. But it can prevent bad results at the end. There are formulas and levels of acceptance of QC vs. cost to do it that varies to each individual company.

My overall fear is with too much complaining, in an era of diminishing physical product, that record companies will just stop doing them. And no, I don’t think putting out an error-filled product is acceptable either. But there is a happy medium.

I believe it is easy to identify “superfans” that would be more than happy to listen to files/discs before they manufacture them. Same with printed materials. For any of these SDE type releases, the cost of a couple of the sets is cheap in the long run compared to the negative comments/reviews.

I have high hopes for the Alison Moyet re-issues, with the understanding that some of the bonus content might night be as cleanly remastered as the original albums, as the tapes may not have been available. But most have not been on CD before and really hard to find in any form, so something is better than nothing.

I also anxiously await the next Tears for Fears box of STSOL, and knowing Paul was involved, everything will probably be fine.

bertielego

I received my (amazon exclusive) box set on 29th October…
…and I am very pleased with it!

For those who wanted to know, it is a 12″x12″ format digibook, and the booklet is 12″x12″ too. IMHO, the artwork and its color theme fits the music and the image of the band.

I have started listening to some of the CDs, and am very pleased! Some may find it could have been mastered with a little more bass… nothing critical, though.

Now I’m looking forward to the link to request replacement discs, to get the set perfect!

J

This is what happens when a label entrust absolute amateurs with such an important project. What a shame someone like Tom Parker wasn’t involved, a professional who delivered incredible PWL related releases, time and again. Unlike the fool who was in charge of this mess. As if messing up Donna Summer wasn’t lesson enough.

Dave

I can’t help but think now that with so much negativity about this release on here and on the official DOA FB page that Steve Coy will seriously consider not to release anything else as comments have mainly been destructive.

Steve owns all the master tapes for this project and sent them to the record label, so for the incorrect mixes being used, they were either mis-labelled in the first place or something occurred pre-production. Whatever happened, Edsel have already said they will fix the errors but that just doesn’t seem good enough for some. Yes, I agree that there should have been a complete quality control before the set went to press but stuff happens and it’s being resolved.

I know the comments are aimed at Edsel but all this negativity in the very week Pete passed away and no-one seems to stop and think what impact these comments could be having on Steve who worked so hard on this, and Pete’s immediate family.

Steve recently mentioned that there is more to come, but what with some ‘fan’ uploading to YouTube the previously unreleased tracks from Boom Box and all this nit-picking over disc errors over-shadowing Pete’s sad passing, so-called Dead Or Alive fans are actually killing any potential future releases.
I for one thank Steve so much for putting this together and I sincerely hope he will be encouraged by the more positive of us to carry on Dead Or Alive from what is left in the vaults to honor Pete’s memory.

Anthony

I do entirely see your point of view, Dave and have similar fears with regards Steve’s attitude to further releases. However, Pete and Steve entrusted their recordings to the label and it’s the label who have failed to understand, research and manage the catalogue sufficiently. “Destructive” comments? I guess to an extent, but I prefer to view them as constructive ultimately, as we’re telling the label information that they clearly know nothing about (mixes, edits, segues), and I’d guess Pete and Steve were assured by the label they had a great team working on this, when it’s starting to become apparent they don’t really know anything about Dead Or Alive. The blame has to lie with the label, and yes, hopefully they’re admitting their mistakes and replacing all discs which are effected.

I see more errors are being rearing their head this morning, with the ‘American WIPE-OUT Mix’ of My Heart Goes Bang, from the all-mono Youthquake CD2 being the edited version (5:59 Vs 6:45). I hope they haven’t already ordered a stereo re-press of the Youthquake discs!

Mark N

Regarding Mike’s comment about the Rebel Rebel (12″ NRG Extended Mix), I might be wrong but I think it’s supposed to be this mix
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unNky_5Qovk

This would match up with the time of 6.25 listed on Discogs.

The only difference on the box set between the 12″ NRG Extended Mix and The Hole Mix is from 6.09 onwards, where it ends with a “Huh!” in the extended, but the “Rebel Rebel” backing vocals fade out in The Hole Mix.

Rob

As a major DOA fan I’m certainly glad I waited for the first comments on the boxset before placing any order, even though the exclusive signed print was quite tempting.
I don’t know much about that record company and I don’t wanna put them down, but that boxset coming after some “market research” might indicate that they clearly cared more about the commercial aspect than the artistic side. “Hey, it will sell!”
Fans should definitely be involved in such projects, at every level. This way we might even have had Fan the flame (Part 2) in the tracklist.
I don’t think this is unnecessary negativity to badly react to so many mistakes. Any project should aim for perfection. As someone mentioned, rating that set 5 stars on Amazon is giving record companies the green light to keep on screwing up. “Hey, it will sell anyway!”
Sending out replacement discs is nice but won’t make up for all the inconsiderate mistakes.
As for this faulty boxset becoming a collector’s item, this is just ridiculous, unless you’re a completist.

Larry Davis

I can understand people being upset about the errors…but I do agree that it is perfectionism as negativism…i can accept certain errors like the space between the 2 tracks on MBDTK…no big whoop…but at least the mono Youthquake discs are being replaced…not sure if I am getting a box by Nov 5th…will find out tomorrow…but I’d rather have an imperfect box over none at all…as for Edsel I never had any problems with any of their releases I had purchased before…the Jimmy Somerville triple, the 22 disc Pretenders set and the 7CD Jim Croce box…am going to order the Blue Zone and Lisa Stansfield box…killer price…and I do want the Suede reissues, the Bananarama sets, Belinda Carlisle sets and Thompson Twins box…sorry the DOA is imperfect but like Pete said, no other deal was on the table…so that or nothing…and they are doing at least something about it…I’m with Paul on this one…love the site Paul and RIP Pete…

GG

Hi,

Well having not the good version is one thing and no one check if it was good.

But having mono disc is incredible, no sound test has been made with the master and after some cd on the factory?

If Edsel remplace all faulty disc as i saw that some people reported that 10/19 was faulty, how Edsel will do this?

The next stock for Amazon Uk is for 15 december, if Edsel replace all faulty the next released date will be over this one.

But will they correct all errors, all errors are too big to be ignored really.

A box with error ok but not so big one, and for box over 100£ no error at all should be the good thing, but it seems that it wasn’t the priority…

Will the vinyl box will be hint by so big problem???

Edsel should add more delay to check vinyl box and same thing to correct the CD box…

Wait and see, but all fans won’t wait a long time and pay so much for other error too.

Gerald

RikTheHib

My copy is apparently on the way – I’m secretly hoping that Amazon will send me an email (as they know I am a legitimate customer, not a freeloader) saying that they know about the errors and if I would like to return the box unopened (at their expense of course) they will send out a replacement when all fixes are in place.
I’d be happy with that. Wouldn’t we all?

Neil

Personally i think it’s a disgrace that Edsel have been getting away with this for years. I never bought this as it’s not my cup of tea but i can sympathise with people on here who have forked out £100 for this and the excuse i have read about a release this size being difficult to curate is no excuse really when you consider the amount of 2 disc reissues they have screwed up by the likes of Paul Young,Aztec Camera and Level 42 to name just 3 but their are loads more. It’s blatantly obvious nobody listens to these before they are released.

Andrew Edwards

Well Daran your comments are aspirational at best but that isn’t the reality. My comments are directed at the reality of the box set as it is. So I would rather have most of the DOA archive remastered, released and available to enjoy and I must say the level of perfectionism expressed in the form of negativism on this blog is rather off putting

NM

Nice to know that replacements for Youthquake, discs 1 and 2 will be made available. Would it make sense financially and logistically to compile a third disc that includes all of the other tracks corrected?

Shane

Oh Paul, if you start commenting on posts you should do it on all of them, even if it is your blog, calling people “negative Nancys” is just as offensive. Just because you believe that it’s better to get this set with all the mistakes than no box at all.

AmiRage

Damn, not again a faulty release …
… and how do I get the replacement CDs (if I’ll ever get them) *in* my second Amazon Exclusive box set, which was meant to stay sealed?

Andrew Edwards
Daran

That is not a markup due to the errors though Straker surely? It is the Amazon exclusive edition signed by Pete, which sold out a while back of course. The signature is the bomb here, not the flawed discs which must number maybe a couple of thousand sets sold maybe more (1000 signed, rest unsigned around the world – who knows how many?). There is no rarity in the faulty disc box at the moment, just too many of them out in the wild. The signature though with Pete’s passing now is worth a ton of money obviously, regardless of faults.

Andrew Edwards

The price still includes the defective discs with the signed print. Still a collectible errors and all.

Shane

I can’t believe the “it’s ok to make mistakes attitude” there is on here! Especially for something that costs more than 100£
What is your work guys? Where I work you can’t do mistakes and if you do them, they have to be fixed immediately and your procedures updated to ensure you don’t do the same mistakes. That is why you have quality control! There is no excuse for allowing faulty products to be issued. None. It doesn’t matter what size it is. Especially given that it’s not cheap either. More quantity? Adapt the control process! It shocks me every time that it’s clear that these companie employ people with not respect for the work, no interest in their reputation and simply don’t care about what they are doing. If they did, this would not happen. Don’t try to sell me any excuse! It is pathetic to try and justify this.
I hope I will be able to enjoy this set nonetheless and I will tell you that I have lost count and interest in having to contact the companies, after spending time to try and find the right place to contact to get whatever replacement. Isn’t my hard-earned money sufficient that I must be subjected to some kind of easter egg hunt? People are really strangers to the meaning of the word “professional”.

Anthony

I agree, Paul. Being rude and disrespectful is not necessary and I suggest should not be tolerated here. I for one do not enjoy seeing slurs like “Negative Nancys” being bandied about, but it’s been on this page for over 24 hours. If it was my site, I’d have a zero tolerance policy. Remain civil or your post is removed.

Straker

I would’ve thought all these errors might’ve given the re-sellers pause. But apparently not – Yours for £615:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/B01LQKNAD6/

SimonP

At least Edsel are offering to replace some or all of the discs. Howard Jones’s Risk CD had mastering errors and all purchasers got was a tough luck message from his management. They carried on selling the box set even after the errors were pointed out.

Andrew

Received the Amazon exclusive edition on Friday. Great box, lovely booklet, adore the signed print of PB. Noticed the glitches with My Heart Goes Bang 7″ and What I Want 1984 12″. As I’ve ripped this to iTunes, I’ve replaced those with the correct versions.

I haven’t played the Youthquake discs in detail, so hadn’t noticed the mono issue.

Great to have a box set, disappointed that it’s not perfect but in the scheme of things it is what it is – and I look forward to getting the updates discs once the thread is updated with the ‘how to’ details.

So sorry that we’ve lost Pete. Now that’s something worthy of my upset.

Paul English

The problem with errors like this is that sets with the incorrect discs will still be available to buy for months or even years later.

You have no way of knowing in advance if the set has the incorrect discs – Grace Jones Disco Years box being an example.

GG

Having for example same song instead of 7″ version is fault ok.

But it’s worst having cd in mono…

Don’t know if there was so big noie for other Edsel Box released but very bad really.

Sure that for the vinyl box, they’ll look after i hope.

For the next stock of cd box on amazon uk hope it’ll be ok.

For French amazon site, it’s no possible to order it now, maybe due to master factory?

Samething for French Fnac site.

Wait again…

Gerald.

fons

Received the Amazon exclusive on Saturday here in R’dam/NL. It sure is a stunning looking set indeed, too bad its overshadowed by the faults. Stains on a -unintentional- tribute to Pete Burns. The mentioned faults aside I think the actual audio quality is quite good on all thats left. I hoped to kick off with Youthquake but it being in mono made me opt for MBADTK and it sounds really great. The dvd1 looks bad btw, I also see cropped images. Quality wise it is way worse than the Evolution dvd. You can actually see a big difference between the older videos and the last YSMR video so it has to be the sources used. Think someone at Edsel really is having a bad weekend…awaiting more info while I play some more :)

Steven

Played my DVDs last night no playback noise issues like others are reporting. All good.

GG

Hi,

DVD plzy fine, it’s a good new.

But how about the faulty cd?

Do you have problem with all cd mentioned?

A print error isn’t a big mistake.

But factory default such mono instead of stereo or noise pb or silence between two song it’s not normal.

No quality check has been done, it’s impossible…

Just only for the mono cd, how can they missed this???

Hope really the new Amazon stock will be free error, and hope the same with Vinyl box too.

Gerald

Daran

And many will horrified by your apologetic condoning of this horror show of a release….. Your feeling of being sick from people having the sheer nerve and audacity to complain about a £100 product riddled with errors is music to the music biz execs ears… “Yes boss, fans really will swallow any old crap we push out”.

Some fans doubtless could not really afford to buy this if they were honest about their finances, but will do so anyway, so that argument of yours is blown out the water for a start. For heaven’s sake stop being so easy on the record industry. As Pete B said himself this is a big ask for fans to pay over £100 for. As a poster has already mentioned they are not releasing this SDE as a favour to fans, they are releasing it to market to sell and make a profit on, and as a product with a financial transaction taking place to acquire it the purchaser has a right to expect it to be QA’d, fit for purpose etc.

Just because ‘fandom’ is involved does make it ok for record co’s to push out such faulty product. Would you be ok for a £100+ tablet, smartphone, food blender etc to be 40% faulty on day one release? No, you would not. So why should Edsel get an easy ride for being so slack – AGAIN.

Andrew Edwards

Would you rather have the box set with errors or no DOA box set at all? As Pete Burns reported there was no other deal on the table. More than likely the label will correct the errors as labels do. I agree that there should be better quality control but I would rather have most or all of the music by an artist with some flaws than not at all. Some optimism is warranted here. The majority of the remastered music here in the box set is not flawed so I’m sure most will enjoy it while the label clears up the flaws

Daran

I would rather Paul had curated it/PM’d it! That way the release would have come out error free most likely, and we would not be having this conversation closing in on 200 comments on a faulty disc thread for one of the most highly anticipated SDE’s of the year! That is what I would ideally have wanted Andrew, as would we all ;)

Andrew Edwards

I believe it is quite interesting that many people haven’t spoken much about the music that sounds great and what was done right by the label instead of all the criticism. Again perfectionism as negativism. Paul has it right about being balanced and fair about the attempt at a massive undertaking by a label with a huge archive of material.

kiefer2

OK-how about this-the part of the building that isn’t on fire is absolutely beautiful! The fact remains that errors on 8 out of 19 discs is really too much for anyone to have accept just because it’s what isn’t screwed up sounds great. It’s a lot to pay for bread that’s almost half stale.

Michel Banen

I love this box ! Youthquake is my fave album so I’ll have to wait for those discs to be replaced to fully enjoy that but what I’ve heard so far is FANTASTIC !!! I even got the signed photo !!! Packaging is excellent and there simply is no such thing as perfection. As soon as the Youthquake CD’s are replaced I guess the box is [almost] as perfect as it could be.

Max

I read somewhere that “My heart goes bang” American Wipe out Mix is no the full length version but the edited version we already had on the best of “that’s the way”.
I hope they can put the full version on the stereo corrected reprint.

NeilKelly

They can’t source it, unfortunately. My fav track, too!

Andrew Edwards

The comparison to the problems in a box set to a building on fire is so misguided. My God it is music not someone being burned or physically hurt. Wow this discussion continues to be even more and more bizarre. I don’t blame Paul for mostly checking out of the posts on this blog

Michael khalsa

It was 250 dollars for god sake. All you would have to do is listen beforehand or get a huge fan like Carlo who ran the website to listen beforehand & then go to presses.

Rob

In response to Andrew Edwards : I’d actually rather have a boxset with no errors at all.
Sorry but if you keep on letting everything pass under any excuse of “optimism” or love of the artist, or if send out the signal that you’re “satisfied” anyway, well guess what, anything else will pass in the future.
Record companies would be well advised to show more respect for both the artists and the audience, don’t encourage them down the other way.

Andrew Edwards

Well even with all the criticizing, pontificating and negativity, this type of thing continues to happen for a lot of reasons. Some of it is that for many years 80’s music was horribly archived and the quality of some of the labeling and editing was horrendous. Remember in the 80’s 12″ records were throwaway for labels, promotion only. Many of those masters were lost forever. Now Edsel has a lot of responsibility for these errors and I’m sure they will make good on some of the problems. Others they might determine are not problems.

Michael khalsa

Not with this band. Pete said it himself in the interview 72 % of the sales of You Spin Me were 12″. The label tried the argument that 12″ were just for promotion it does not really wash. I bought all their 12 inches at the time. Pete described Youthquake as a bag of shit but the remixes were fabulous.

Eightiesaddict

Only Pete would be so tone deaf to refer to Youthquake as “a bag of shit”. It is beloved by so many of us, and is one of my favorite 80’s albums. Honestly, I wonder why he thought the fans loved DOA at all. According to him they hardly did anything right. He was more critical of anything they did, than the most jaded of critics.

P.S. I ordered the Amazon Exclusive Box Set the first day it was available. Just happy to have it. Mistakes and all. #OhWell