NewsBob Dylan / The Cutting Edge 1965-66: The Bootleg Series Vol 12
• 6CD Deluxe / • 2CD & 3LP ‘Best Of’ / • 18CD Collector’s Set
This November, Sony Music are to release The Cutting Edge, Volume 12 of their long running Bob Dylan Bootleg Series which will open up the vaults (in a big way) for the 1965-1966, and the Bringing It All Back Home, Highway 61 Revisited, and Blonde On Blonde sessions.
A six-CD deluxe edition of The Cutting Edge offers an abundance of alternate takes, and demos from some of Dylan’s most revered work including a whole disc devoted to Like A Rolling Stone (20 takes) and the scrapped Blonde On Blonde sessions with The Band.
The deluxe features every track from Bringing It All Back Home, Highway 61 Revisited and Blonde On Blonde in some form of alternate (many with multiple variations) with the exception of Maggie’s Farm and Gates of Eden. In total the deluxe edition offers over seven hours of priceless audio of Dylan in the studio in the mid-sixties.
If six discs aren’t enough, Sony will also be sating the appetite of the hardcore Dylan fans with a mammoth 18-disc edition of The Cutting Edge: The Bootleg Series Vol 12 1965-1966 which is said to include “every single note recorded by Bob Dylan in the studio in 1965/1966”. In total, 379 tracks. This will come with nine mono vinyl singles, a 180-page hardcover book and is limited to 5,000 units. It won’t be repressed.
If this is all too much you can opt for ‘highlights’ set, The Best of The Cutting Edge, which gives you a selection of 36-tracks across two CDs complete with a 60-page booklet. This ‘Best Of’ is also available as a deluxe vinyl 3LP set which will include the two CDs.
The Cutting Edge: The Bootleg Series Vol 12 1965-1966 will be released on 6 November 2015. Full track listings and links below.
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Best Of The Cutting Edge Deluxe 3LP + 2CD
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Best Of The Cutting Edge 2CD Edition
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The Cutting Edge 18CD Collector’s Edition = 9 x 7″ mono singles
6-disc deluxe edition
Disc: 1
1. Love Minus Zero/No Limit – Take 1 (1/13/1965) acoustic, incomplete
2. Love Minus Zero/No Limit – Take 2 (1/13/1965) acoustic
3. Love Minus Zero/No Limit – Take 3 remake (1/13/1965) acoustic
4. Love Minus Zero/No Limit – Take 1 remake (1/14/1965) electric
5. I’ll Keep It with Mine – Take 1 (1/13/1965) piano demo, previously released on Biograph, 1985
6. It’s All Over Now, Baby Blue – Take 1 (1/13/1965) solo acoustic, previously released on The Bootleg Series, Vol. 7, 2005
7. Bob Dylan’s 115th Dream – Take 1 (1/13/1965) acoustic, incomplete
8. Bob Dylan’s 115th Dream – Take 2 (1/13/1965) acoustic
9. She Belongs to Me – Take 1 (1/13/1965) solo acoustic
10. She Belongs to Me – Take 2 Remake (1/13/1965) acoustic
11. She Belongs to Me – Take 1 Remake (1/14/1965) electric
12. Subterranean Homesick Blues – Take 1 (1/13/1965) solo acoustic, previously released on The Bootleg Series, Vol. 1
13. Subterranean Homesick Blues – Take 1 remake (1/14/1965) electric
14. Outlaw Blues – Take 1 (1/13/1965) solo acoustic
15. Outlaw Blues – Take 2 Remake (1/13/1965) electric
16. On the Road Again – Take 1 (1/13/1965) solo acoustic
17. On the Road Again – Take 4 (1/14/1965) electric
18. On the Road Again – Take 1 remake (1/15/1965) electric
19. On the Road Again – Take 7 remake (1/15/1965) electric
20. Farewell, Angelina – Take 1 (1/13/1965) solo acoustic, previously released The Bootleg Series, Vol. 1
21. If You Gotta Go, Go Now – Take 1 (1/13/1965) solo acoustic
22. If You Gotta Go, Go Now – Take 2 (1/15/1965) electric
23. You Don’t Have to Do That – Take 1 (1/13/1965) solo acoustic, incomplete
Disc: 2
1. California – Take 1 (1/13/1965) solo acoustic
2. It’s Alright, Ma (I’m Only Bleeding) – Take 1 (1/15/1965) acoustic, demo
3. Mr. Tambourine Man – Takes 1
4. Mr. Tambourine Man – Take 3 (1/15/1965) incomplete, with band
5. It Takes a Lot to Laugh, It Takes a Train to Cry – Take 1 (6/15/1965)
6. It Takes a Lot to Laugh, It Takes a Train to Cry – Take 8 (6/15/1965)
7. It Takes a Lot to Laugh, It Takes a Train to Cry – Take 3 (7/29/1965)
8. It Takes a Lot to Laugh, It Takes a Train to Cry – Take 3 remake (7/29/65)
9. Sitting on a Barbed Wire Fence – Take 2 (6/15/1965)
10. Tombstone Blues – Take 1 (7/29/1965)
11. Tombstone Blues – Take 9 (7/29/1965) previously released on The Bootleg Series, Vol. 7, 2005
12. Positively 4th Street – Takes 1
13. Positively 4th Street – Take 4 (7/29/1965)
14. Positively 4th Street – Take 5 (7/29/1965)
15. Desolation Row – Take 1 (8/4/1965)
16. Desolation Row – Take 2 (8/4/1965) piano demo
17. Desolation Row – Take 5 remake (8/2/1965)
18. From a Buick 6 – Take 1 (7/30/1965)
19. From a Buick 6 – Take 4 (7/30/1965) released in error on first pressing of Highway 61 Revisited, 1965
Disc: 3
1. Like a Rolling Stone – Take 1
2. Like a Rolling Stone – Take 4 (6/15/1965)
3. Like a Rolling Stone – Take 5 (6/15/1965)
4. Like a Rolling Stone – Rehearsal (6/16/1965)
5. Like a Rolling Stone – Take 1 (6/16/1965)
6. Like a Rolling Stone – Takes 2
7. Like a Rolling Stone – Take 4 (6/16/1965) released on Highway 61 Revisited, 1965
8. Like a Rolling Stone – Take 5 (6/16/1965)
9. Like a Rolling Stone – Take 6 (6/16/1965)
10. Like a Rolling Stone – Take 8 (6/16/1965)
11. Like a Rolling Stone – Takes 9
12. Like a Rolling Stone – Take 11 (6/16/1965)
13. Like a Rolling Stone – Take 12 (6/16/1965)
14. Like a Rolling Stone – Take 13 (6/16/1965)
15. Like a Rolling Stone – Take 14 (6/16/1965)
16. Like a Rolling Stone – Take 15 (6/16/1965)
17. Like a Rolling Stone – Master take
18. Like a Rolling Stone – Master take
19. Like a Rolling Stone – Mast take
20. Like a Rolling Stone – Master take
Disc: 4
1. Can You Please Crawl Out Your Window – Take 1 (7/30/1965)
2. Can You Please Crawl Out Your Window – Take 17 (7/30/1965 released in error on the first pressing of Positively 4th Street single
3. Highway 61 Revisited – Take 3 (8/2/1965)
4. Highway 61 Revisited – Take 5 (8/2/1965)
5. Highway 61 Revisited – Take 7 (8/2/1965)
6. Just Like Tom Thumb’s Blues – Take 1 (8/2/1965)
7. Just Like Tom Thumb’s Blues – Take 3 (8/2/1965)
8. Just Like Tom Thumb’s blues – Take 13 (8/2/1965)
9. Queen Jane Approximately – Take 2 (8/2/1965)
10. Queen Jane Approximately – Take 5 (8/2/1965)
11. Ballad of a Thin Man – Take 2 (8/2/1965) incomplete
12. Medicine Sunday – Take 1 (10/5/1965)
13. Jet Pilot – Take 1 (10/5/1965) Previously released on Biograph, 1985
14. I Wanna Be Your Lover – Take 1 (10/5/1965)
15. I Wanna Be Your Lover – Take 6 (10/5/1965)
16. Unknown Instrumental – Take 2 (10/5/1965)
17. Can You Please Crawl Out Your Window – Takes 5
18. Visions of Johanna – Take 1 (11/30/1965)
19. Visions of Johanna – Take 5 (11/30/1965)
Disc: 5
1. Visions of Johanna – Take 7 (11/30/1965)
2. Visions of Johanna – Take 8 (11/30/1965) previously released on The Bootleg Series, Vol. 7, 2005
3. Visions of Johanna – Take 14 (11/30/1965)
4. She’s Your Lover Now – Take 1 (1/21/1966)
5. She’s Your Lover Now – Take 6 (1/21/1966)
6. She’s Your Lover Now – Take 15 (1/21/1966) previously released on The Bootleg Series, Vol. 1
7. She’s Your Lover Now – Take 16 (1/21/1966) solo piano
8. One of Us Must Know (Sooner or Later) – Take 2 (1/25/1966)
9. One of Us Must Know (Sooner or Later) – Take 4 (1/25/1966)
10. One of Us Must Know (Sooner or Later) – Take 19 (1/25/1966)
11. Lunatic Princess – Take 1 (1/27/1966)
12. Fourth Time Around – Take 11 (2/14/1966)
13. Leopard – Skin Pill
14. Leopard – Skin Pill
Disc: 6
1. Stuck Inside of Mobile with the Memphis Blues Again – Take 1 (2/17/1966)
2. Stuck Inside of Mobile with the Memphis Blues Again – Rehearsal (2/17/1966)
3. Stuck Inside of Mobile with the Memphis Blues Again – Take 5 (2/17/1966) previously released on The Bootleg Series, Vol. 7, 2005
4. Stuck Inside of Mobile with the Memphis Blues Again – Take 13 (2/17/1966)
5. Stuck Inside of Mobile with the Memphis Blues Again – Take 14 (2/17/1966)
6. Absolutely Sweet Marie – Take 1 (3/7/1966)
7. Just Like a Woman – Take 1 (3/8/1966)
8. Just Like a Woman – Take 4 (3/8/1966)
9. Just Like a Woman – Take 8 (3/8/1966)
10. Pledging My Time – Take 1 (3/8/1966)
11. Most Likely You Go Your Way (And I’ll Go Mine) – Take 1 (3/9/1966)
12. Temporary Like Achilles – Take 3 (3/9/1966)
13. Obviously 5 Believers – Take 3 (3/10/1966)
14. I Want You – Take 4 (3/10/1966)
15. Sad – Eyed Lady of the Lowlands
The Best of Cutting Edge / 2CD & 3LP
Disc 1
1.Love Minus Zero / No Limit (Take 2, Acoustic) 3:09
2.I’ll Keep It with Mine (Take 1, Piano Demo) 4:10
3.Bob Dylan’s 115th Dream (Take 1 & 2, Solo Acoust… 6:14
4.She Belongs to Me (Take 1, Solo Acoustic) 2:56
5.Subterranean Homesick Blues (Take 1, Alternate T… 2:37
6.Outlaw Blues (Take 2, Alternate Take) 3:28
7.On the Road Again (Take 4, Alternate Take) 2:30
8.Farewell, Angelina (Take 1, Solo Acoustic) 5:26
9.If You Gotta Go, Go Now (Take 2, Alternate Take) 2:48
10.You Don’t Have to Do That (Take 1, Solo Acoustic) 0:49
11.California (Take 1, Solo Acoustic) 3:04
12.Mr. Tambourine Man (Take 3 with Band, Incomplete) 3:22
13.It Takes a Lot to Laugh, It Takes a Train to Cry… 3:28
14.Like a Rolling Stone (Take 5, Rehearsal (Short V…1:43
15.Like a Rolling Stone (Take 11, Alternate Take) 5:55
16.Sitting On a Barbed Wire Fence (Take 2) 3:58
17.Medicine Sunday (Take 1) 1:00
18.Desolation Row (Take 2, Piano Demo) 1:59
19.Desolation Row (Take 1, Alternate Take) 11:16
Disc 2
1.Tombstone Blues (Take 1, Alternate Take) 7:29
2.Positively 4th Street (Take 5, Alternate Take) 4:22
3.Can You Please Crawl Out Your Window (Take 1, Al… 4:03
4.Just Like Tom Thumb’s Blues (Take 3, Rehearsal) 5:37
5.Highway 61 Revisited (Take 3, Alternate Take) 3:28
6.Queen Jane Approximately (Take 5, Alternate Take) 6:01
7.Visions of Johanna (Take 5, Rehearsal) 7:39
8.She’s Your Lover Now (Take 6, Rehearsal) 4:56
9.Lunatic Princess (Take 1) 1:18
10.Leopard-Skin Pill-Box Hat (Take 8, Alternate Take) 3:26
11.One of Us Must Know (Sooner or Later) (Take 19, … 5:09
12.Stuck Inside of Mobile with the Memphis Blues Ag… 4:01
13.Absolutely Sweet Marie (Take 1, Alternate Take) 5:04
14.Just Like a Woman (Take 4, Alternate Take) 5:18
15.Pledging My Time (Take 1, Alternate Take) 3:21
16.I Want You (Take 4, Alternate Take) 2:51
17.Highway 61 Revisited (Take 7, False Start)
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Now cdon.com has updated the info for the item, its 6cd Japan-import like I predicted. There must have been few people that have asked this from them..
I think there’s atleast few people that have mentioned on the couple forums that they ordered that boxset from cdon.com, so if any of them receive it then most likely we will get closure on the matter. I ordered as soon as found out about the deal but decided to cancel already, since even the customer-service person over at cdon could not confirm the version. I have strong doubt on the matter and I sincerely think cdon has just incorrect tracklisting on the pages and then many people thought it to be the 18cd set.
I think Sony somehow got messed up and a bit greedy on this release as they chose to release the mammoth 18cd box exclusively on bobdylan.com and so any fan from outside of USA will have to pay lots more due to customs, VAT and postages. I haven’t yet bought any editions but might get the 6cd-set at some point if I really feel like doing so.
I really waited for this set but was surely a bit disappointed as I found out the truth, eventhough the 6cd edition has been the deluxe-edition for the 3 past Bootleg-Series (8, 10, 11) now there’s maybe no sense in buying the 6cd edition of Cutting Edge, it might have the best there is but still if I would feel like digging further I would have to pay that much more for adding further 12 discs…
I own all the other editions and deluxe-editions, but I just cant justify myself for buying that boxset that costs over 800€. Its just too much.
Im collector and Im employed so I have no problems in buying these many wonderful remasters, boxsets, etc special releases, but I think I just cant see point in paying that much. I think Sony could release some sort of brought down stripped edition of the set later or get it distributed in Europe aswell so we can buy it at the same price as fellows in USA.
So for now, I have managed to get this 18cd-box and other copyright extension releases via different routes instead and have no regret. Maybe I will take many cups of coffee during some gloomy and cold winter weekend and then listen to the whole sessions and look if wanna get this release as physical edition also.
Also to continue the last message, it seems that this japanese edition is marked as “Blu-Spec CD 2″-release which surely means higher price already.
I have never heard of these”Blu-Spec CD2” or SHM-discs but according to some comments I have seen/heard, these format releases might be marketing ploy really with no real advantage over CD or SACD-editions.
I think you’re spot on with Blu-spec CD2… Thanks for clarifying. I won’t delete the other message, rather let people read this thread. At least with everything posted it will make some sense. P
I took a search on the EAN-code of the item (4547366250633) and all it brings up is actually japanese 6cd edition of the Bootleg Series Vol. 12.
Just to make sure I googled the code again but also used some extensive program which scans the codes and all of them came up with the japanese 6cd set unfornately. Disappointing really.
The cdon.com store is good but they sometimes have really strangely high prices for import-items.
Im really sorry for bringing up this, but I also believed it to be correct item as cdon.com has the wrong tracklist for the item.
Paul, please remove my last message.
I got some reply from people and they think it pricing mistake and also it seems that it is actually japanese 6cd edition instead.
On what basis are people judging this to be a 6CD japanese import? It shows the track listing for all 18 discs and it’s far too expensive, surely, for a 6CD Japanese import.
Major discount deal alert!!!
Cdon.com (Swedish/Finnish store) has very good price on the 18cd edition box at the moment, it’s priced 409.95€ ($438, £289.36)
Normally, for example if I was to order this from bobdylan.com (USA) it would cost roughly 816€ ( ~$875, £575.97) with added taxes, customs and postages.
So, overall if this really is true, then its really good deal and no-one should pass it. No worries, as within EU there won’t be major taxes, customs and big postage-rates as would be if one would order this from USA.
Here is the link and it has the same number of discs and track-info as the usual 18cd set has:
http://cdon.fi/musiikki/dylan%2c_bob/bootleg_series_12%3dbox%3d_%5bimport%5d-35374352
I already ordered mine!
Seen several reports online of people getting charged that £120 import duty- not what you need when it’s already an expensive item.
My copy of the collector’s box was delivered yesterday, after almost £120 in import fees/vat. Got an email late last night advising how to download the content. It’s a lovely sturdy box but still very expensive.
Ouch!
My copy of the six disc version arrived late last week from a local retailer and have spent the weekend ripping it to my iTunes library. Listened to a couple of discs and very much enjoyed the Like A Rolling Stone disc. Will probably insert the final released version as it seemed incomplete without it to finish the listening session. The absence of The finished version is not a complaint but a comment.
As a aside I was sent a torrent link for a download of FLAC files for the 18 disc version. Not sure how it is there if nobody has the collector’s edition as yet. All files were tagged etc and a very quick download. Also now in my library but I doubt I’ll burn the discs.
I know it happens, but I’d encourage people not to casually mention how they’ve illegally downloaded music on SDE. Thanks.
Paul
I don’t know if you track the metrics but has this release generated the most comments ever?
J
I purchased the 18CD set Collector’s Edition, but I cannot find the download code/card for the high-resolution files to download anywhere in the set, and I have practically turned it upside down. Can anyone else who also have it report back where to find it?
A bit disappointed with the 10 frames of film from Don’t Look Back (film shows the back of some guy’s head walking away from the camera towards a door. It’s very dark and difficult to make out (or get excited about!)
One other small gripe is the fabric covering of the box. I was hoping for that newish rubberized coating (which Sony used for Dylan’s Complete Albums Vol. 1). I think they missed the boat with this, because my box had multiple weird blemishes in the fabric.
Of the music contained inside, it is a Grail, of course!
Just received an email saying download link will be sent Monday.
Has anyone found the download link that was supposed to come with the 18-disc set? I cannot.
I received an email with the order number or something alike, but on two different occasions, I clicked just once on the buttom “Download Manager”, and it just did not work. For the first time, they sent me a message telling they had been experienced some problems with downloading, and that they soon would be fixing it. One or two days after, the problem was fixed, and they excluded the .wav option, leaving only the mp3 and the flac files. Once again I tried, without success, so I emailed to [email protected] for FOUR times, and until now I have not received any reply. Is the problem still unsolved, or they will not give me another chance? Does anybody know some details about this issue? Thank you.
Hi
Did anybody ever uncover the promo code for the 18cd box set?
I just received the 18 disc set today. I have listened to 3 discs; sound is excellent, and the tunes are all worthwhile, even the false starts. I love studio chatter, and hearing how it all comes together.
My OPPO blu-ray deck doesn’t provide the track names, but iTunes pulled them right up.
The packaging is excellent as well. The vinyl singles shifted in shipping, and the outer box was a bit dusty, but overall in great shape.
I think this will prove to be a great purchase.
Ordered my 3LP/2CD set from base.com, which is still the cheapest price I’ve seen: £53.00 with free postage. They tried to deliver it to me yesterday, and it’s now arriving this afternoon. It’s not even due to be out until Friday, so that’s pretty good service!!!!!
Has anyone found information on the Hi Res download link that comes with the Collector’s addition. I want to know what size files they are. 24 bit 96 Hz would be nice.
They’re selling hiccups and blind alleys,
They’re painting the motives white,
The fortune telling lady
Now runs a teeshirt site.
Here comes the keen-eyed doorman
With a spindled leopard skin,
One hand is tied to the mad-eyed prophet,
The other to where he’s been.
And the D-gang’s in a turmoil,
Deciding where to go,
As they watch themselves proceeding down
Exploitation Row.
Outside the minus zero box
The lonesome single pleads,
And the Englishman’s Johanna howls
Will I never be released?
But the organ-grinder’s sympathy
Is for himself so sick
Of all this repetition
And all these juggler’s tricks.
And from railroad eyes in hotel rooms
You can watch the river flow,
As long as you don’t turn your back
On Exploitation Row.
Yes I saw your invoice yesterday,
And the sentiment it spoke:
If you don’t like it just don’t buy it –
Was that some kind of joke?
All these versions that you mention,
Yes I know they’ll be quite lame,
I’ll have to rearrange my senses
And give them all another name.
Right now I just don’t have the strength
To miss the final show;
I’m Mr Jones and here’s my toll
To Exploitation Row.
Whether you agree with the sentiment or not, nice job!
k i just did the math
at 33$ per cd, maybe it’s best to wait til the tracks stream online.
course, it’s actually only about1.50 per track, so… .
Looks great, but can’t help but feel that the “Rolling Stone” disc would be better suited to the “full” version of the set. I can see five discs being played a lot, but that one somewhat less.
Philip
Pricing for this is offcourse ridiculous. The standard 2CD version is €20.
That would mean 3×20 = €60 for the 6CD version. Best price for the 6CD version is now around €100, so we pay €40 for a bigger book and a box.
The collectors edition 18CD should be 9×20 = €180 but we have to pay around €600, meaning the book, the vinyl singles (who thought of that? Why put vinyl in a cd-box??? – although this happens quite regularly for some strange reason, if I wanted vinyl I ‘d buy vinyl) and the other extras cost > €400 !!
The 18 cd box is 14 POUNDS WEIGHT…. Seriously?
Fire up the forklift, honey, i want to listen to my new bobby d boxset.
Guess for most folks who buy, them puppys will be going straight to flac.
“PROMO CODE”….?
Did you find a Promo Code yet?
I can’t help wondering what Clinton Heylin is making of all this.
Tough decision but think I’ll start with the 2 CD set and depending on overall sound quality , I’m seriously considering the 6 CD edition. Hoping that in the future all the material on the 18 CD set is reissued in a cheaper version.
Unless I’ve missed this in the (bigger than usual) tread – in which case I apologise – the ultimate reason for the release of every recording from ’65-’66 is probably just down to enabling Sony to keep the copyright on these recordings (based on the “use it or lose it” theory).
At least for Dylan fans there are 5000 opportunities to get hold of the set, rather than what happened to the Beatles early recordings that were issued for what seemed like minutes last year…
I foresee this becoming the norm with all major artists with releases in 1965/66.
Nice pick-up Jim! And $2.50 postage from Melbourne to Brisbane’s pretty good as well.
Bloody predictive text….JB HI FI
Just ordered the 6 disc version from IN HiGh here in Australia for $153 which is about £71 at current exchange rate. Not sure that the price will hold as it is likely an error but Australian buyers might want to try to get in quick. Not sure about postage for overseas buyers but with the falling value of our dollar would still be a bargain.
600$ for nine mono singles (and 18cd that’ll be on torrent the day it’ll be released) ? I’ll pass,sorry, I will take the usual 3LP, and probably used ones from amazon repacked category
Just spent an entertaining 30 minutes reading all of the above comments….haven’t laughed so much in a long time.
One question though. What size is the anorak that comes with the 18 cd set?
Just ordered the two CD version. What with the SD Maccas this week and preordering the nine Japanese Blu Spec 2 mini LP ELOs after a few beers last night one has to prioritise!
Mmmm. At a UK price pushing £600, even allowing a generous sum for the singles and book, that’s over £25 per CD. That is some premium.
Interesting: Per Sony website, regarding the 18 cd set”THESE WILL BE THE ONLY COPIES OF THE COLLECTOR’S EDITION EVER MANUFACTURED!” A hint that the 18 discs will be released in a cheaper package?
Been enjoying all the comments here re Bob Boots 12. As for the 18 disc set, to me it’s an historical artefact. The privilege of seeing/hearing the man at work at such a pivotal stage of music history. The price is high but in fact the audience for those interested in “how he did it” is quite less than mainstream. Economics. I’m thrilled that this archive of material is available at all. Thanks to all concerned.
If you get stung by customs, you’re looking at over £500 in total when you factor in the $88 postage to UK!
Really tempted by the 18cd set.
Out of interest I added to cart to UK and it wanted to charge $80-odd for postage.
When doing it through PayPal it didn’t add on these costs. Does anyone know if I will get ‘stung’ for these later on?
Cheers
It would have to put the cost upfront I’m sure. It’s the customs charges I’m thinking are going to be another cost on top of the $680
Did you purchase via paypal without shipping? I tried but it adds shipping before you can complete the transaction… When you factor the shipping + £100 for customs duties it costs way beyond $600 for UK Dylan fans!!!
dr john yup…thats a bugger as like the dead box it takes it to over a 1000 bucks which means a gst applied bugger
Here’s a first! Here in Japan, the 6-disk version (B015JXIA4K) is cheaper than in UK. Amazon UK = 105.99 GBP, whereas Amazon JP = 15,150 yen (82.32 GBP). It’s even cheaper than the US (149.98 dollars = 98.51 GBP). For the first time, my adopted home is feeling cheap!!!!
just been reading the steve hoffman site on this (sorry paul…kind of the ‘other’ woman) and i can count a few hundred already ordered the 18cd box with expectations it will be gone within a fortnight. ..with the weak aussie dollar its almost a thousand a box but two ordered…im sure ill get 1200us back on one in a year….12000 aussie dollars spent on boxes in last 12 months..i feel divorce coming…thank god neil’s archives too never looks like it will happen!!
paul…im clearly trying to make this the longest sde chsin to date…but…given my earlier we uestion re tax rebate…will the 18cd be available by amazon uk or is this sony exclusive distribution thanks
Steve.
UK website spincds is offering the big box for £599. Haven’t treied ordering, so don’t know if it includes p&p. But even if it does the Sony site workes out cheaper even with tax added.
However, if Spin CDs are offering it, it may well turn up on other UK sites.
jeezz…just checked shipping to oz from us for the 18cd box…109 us dollars…jeez the 80cd grateful dead boxzilla set only cost 70us to ship wtf…
paul…if u know the answer how come when i order ftom oz from any amazon europe or uk site i get all taxes taken off but not when order from us sites…icluding dylan site?? also with 5000 bucks credit remsining on my card credit limit paul do u think buying 2 18cd sets snd keepingnone sealed id make twice back in a years time ie my copy free??
Steve Gilmour – a word of warning: postage to Oz for the Big Set is over $US100. With our exchange rate currently in the post-Abbott doldrums, that hurts.
But I ordered it anyway…
I went ahead and ordered the 18 disc set (and the 3LP edition). Very much looking forward to it. I’ve been a subscriber to this sites mailing list for a while now but yesterday was my first time posting a message – excellent and informative site, Paul. Keep up the great work.
Thanks Mike. Keeping posting, good to have you here :)
So how much exactly would the 18CD box set come to with p&p, and will there also be taxes/customs charges to pay on top of that?
Ordered the 18CD, even if I don’t know how many times I will listen to it in its entirety (and I am a huge Dylan fan)…since I’m also expecting the 80CD Grateful Dead live box, I will make my own Dylan & The Dead Deluxe for this winter!
To Francis: I’m not commenting your point of view, but PLEASE add “Blind Willie McTell” and “When He Returns” to your list!!!
Ordered the 18 CD version too, but to answer those who think they’ll only play it once, I say bring about 2 or 3 CDs down to the car stereo at a time, and play them that way. I love breaking new albums on the car stereo, so that I don’t have to spin the vinyl version as much to get to the sweet spot. As for Dylan, this will need to be heard over a few times, to fully appreciate how each song evolves into (& sometimes beyond) its album version. So the car stereo is a pretty good solution.
Convinced myself I would be happy with the 6CD version. Had a few beers. Ordered the 18CD version.
Haha :)
A tough decision to be made , who wouldn’t want the 18 disc set ? But price is way out of my range and the 6 disc set seems a bit steep in price for what it is and the 2 disc set doesn’t seem to do the whole thing justice . I think a 3-4 disc highlight set in the £20-30 range would have been a real winner
Yeah, it’s hard passing up the 18CD set… but like other posters here, I already committed $700 for the Dead box, which I’ll likely get further into before I die. Maybe one day I’ll win the Irish Sweepstakes and pay someone a few thousand for it! But for now, it’s 6-disc for me.
[Paul Sinclair
September 24, 2015
Yeah, but Dylan is a big ‘brand’ for want of a better word. Premium pricing unsurprising.]
I see your point, but Dylan’s ‘standard” CD’s retail for the same price as everyone elses so why should that not apply to his ‘deluxe’ sets as well? Is it just our misfortune if we happen to be fans of a ‘big brand’ artist, and should simply pony up without questioning?
This is simply exploiting what the label / management / artist believes the market / fanbase will stand. Pure naked capitalism. Niche marketing targeted mainly at well-off baby boomers (while they’re still around to exploit) before the music market of the future is left to younger generations who are happy to eschew physical products and subscribe to ‘streaming’ services only.
Remember it’s still just cardboard, paper, vinyl and shiny silver discs folks. It’s the music that matters, and we’ll be able to access that one way or another following release. If ‘they’ are not willing to price products fairly, then they shouldn’t be surprised if we go for the ‘other’. Once it’s out there, they don’t own the key to the vault anymore.
Music executives must have been wondering for a good while how to take advantage of the amount of money fans seem happy to fork over for concert tickets for so-called ‘heritage’ acts. THIS type of product is the answer, apparently.
The Complete Dylan Studio Albums Box (47 CD’s) cost me less than £100. But that wasn’t limited to 5,000 copies with the added aura of luxury, exclusivity and snob value. But it will (I am sure) be listened to far more often.
Sorry for the rant. I’ll get back to my Gang Of Four and Crass records now!
Of course, it struck me after reading your rant, that this is the point in Dylan’s career where the American communists, socialists and civil libertarians realised he wasn’t reading from their script anymore (and actually never had been).
This is an amazing box set from his website only and limited too-This is how a major artist does things- other stars could learn from Bob especially the awful box due to come from Phil Collins- but autumn is here and we collectors are going to get hot badly- Dylan/Bowie/Live Jam- wow hotting up!! Buy the monster set only if you are a fan!
But can you really compare a three disc £30.00 set (Phil Collins) to a £400.00 18 disc set? Do we really want Phil Collins or any other artist to match Dylan on this?
I am very happy to shell a reasonable amount of cash out to hear 20 versions of Like Rolling Stone, as it was one of the greatest songs of the 60’s and it’s genesis is up there with Good Vibrations by the Beach Boys and the Sgt Pepper album by the Beatles as one of the great recording studio creations.
However I will not spend the £400 asked here for the Super Deluxe as there is not enough product for the price asked. Compare.it items like the Grateful Dead box, Crimson, the U2 Achtung Baby uber deluxe and it falls well short.
As a classical music fa I’ve been eyeing up the Bach Cantatas by Suzuki on CD Japan ever since the box was announced – thats £600 for 55 SACD hybrids. I balk at the thought of paying that, but it’s a monster bargain compared to the Dylan set here.
Do I (or others) want such an extensive “every last note” set from any other artist (other than Bob Dylan)? yes, I do. For starters, what about The Beatles, Neil Young or The Rolling Stones?
I take your point, but I was also thinking about the price point. Neil Young’s archive boxes were a fraction of the price even though they were made available on Blu-ray or DVD, The Beach Boys Pet Sounds Sessions and Smile Sessions Boxes were a lot less than £100 at time of release. I was replying to John Moore’s defence of “other stars could learn from Bob.”
Other stars have done this before Bob, and done it better.
If the set had been no more than $400, and the quantities hadn’t been so limited, I would have saved up some money, and bought the 18-CD set a few months from now.
I’ll support the artist. I ordered the 6-CD edition, but I’m determined to hear the remaining recordings and have them in my collection. Undoubtedly, some unofficial website will offer the 18-CD edition. And Sony Music knows(and likely accepts) that this is what the outcome will be.
With no chance of obtaining Sony’s 1962 Bob Dylan “Copyright Extension” 4-CDR set(limited to 200 sets), their 6-L.P. 1963 “Copyright Extension” set(limited to 1000 sets) or their 1964 9-L.P. “Copyright Extension” set(Limited to 1000 sets), unofficial websites cheerfully supplied the recordings to me. Sony apparently doesn’t mind or doesn’t care. And the material on the last 3 L.P.’s of the 1964 set(1964 audience recordings) was, sonically, so poor, that it is unlikely that I’ll ever listen to it again.
This is exactly the way every artist should do an archival set. Superlative stages are the way to go. One edition for a fan. Another for a hardcore fan and then an edition for the fanatical collector who wants and needs everything. Great job .
Would I like the 18 CD set? Yes.
Can I afford it? Not as far as Mrs. Dr. John is concerned!
Would I listen to it all? Maybe once.
Will I buy it? God help me, probably.
Must!!!
Merry Christmas everyone…….from Bob Dylan and his bank manager!
There is some must have stuff here. Probably Bob’s greatest period.
Good point but would have to go for Desire/Blood period- that’s his best
The 5-minute promo video is fantastic!
If you click on the “ORDER NOW” button for the 18 disc set it takes you to an order page with a prominent space to enter a “PROMO CODE” – anybody have any idea what the code might be & how much of a difference it would make…?
having just ordered th 800 us dollar 80cd grateful dead set i cant quite raise the cash for the 18cd set…very sad as ot looks pretty and value will skyrocket…but 80 discs of live dead for 800 vs. 18 of dylan for 16 and outakes at that … no contest…100 dollars for 6 discs it is
This is great news, and as excited as I am at the prospect of an excavation of arguably Dylan’s most celebrated period, I find it hard to justify even the six-disc endeavor. I think the 2CD set should work fine for me.
This opinion, like many, is subject to change…
Pre – ordered Bowie vinyl box a while ago through Amazon.it for 208 euro
including postage.
That will save me 40 euro or so on most retail shops.
If you shop around on Amazon or keep an eye on Paul’s updates!
Agree with post above about Amazon. Amazon no longer offer great prices for pre-orders. I used to get many great bargains by pre-ordering. Not any more. Sadly
Be patient folks. I got the complete vol 11 for 66E ( about 50 quid) from Amazon Germany ( thanks Paul), so the 6 disc version should be within reach as some point. Not interested in the 18 disc version, I do have a life!
Just a reminder to US fans: don’t pre-order the 6 disc box from amazonUS. I pre-ordered the complete Basement Tapes box last year and the lowest the price went was $119 (or 78 pounds). Four weeks after the box had been out, the price dropped to $94 (or 61 pounds), a savings of $25. It may not sound like a big savings but it feels like it to me. It stayed that cheap for almost two months. (Actually I prefer the 18 disc box, but that is way out of my price range. I may have to sell off some of my Dylan collection just to fund this set!)
> don’t pre-order the 6 disc box from amazonUS. I pre-ordered the complete Basement Tapes box last year and the lowest the price went was $119 (or 78 pounds). Four weeks after the box had been out, the price dropped to $94 (or 61 pounds), a savings of $25.
Same here, but I convinced Amazon to refund the difference – if it happens again, just tell them the point of their pre-order guarantee is so you can get their lowest price. They’re pretty good with customer service
Thanks for the info Thelonious, I said nothing because I thought the time span between my ordering and the price decrease was too great. Guess it never hurts to try, does it! Thanks!
I’ve found if you wait a month the price comes down. Usually Amazon sellers can give you a good deal.
I think it’s clear that Francis doesn’t like Dylan and most of the rest of us do.
Francis, I don’t mind you leaving a message saying you don’t like Dylan (although I’m not sure I see the point) but I DO mind if you start deliberately annoying people who are just trying to have a debate / exchange of information.
Bear in mind I read and manually approve all comments. I try to be fair, but it is pointless being rude/aggressive because I simply won’t let them through. thanks.
Here here- this is a great info site for fans- and Paul has being a great job- let’s respect that!
Wow, I’d love to own the 18 disc set but it’s hard to justify paying $600 for 18 CDs. And I pre-ordered the Grateful Dead’s $700 30 Trips Around The Sun box the minute it was announced. Of course you get 80 CDs for that so it’s easier to justify the amount. Then there’s the whole issue of “would I ever listen to it all a second time?”
Ditch the singles and the film strip and give us the music at a better price please! At least it doesn’t come with marbles and a scarf.
It’d be good if they we’re issuing a lite version of the 18 disc set. Just the CD’s in their cardboard sleeves in a box with a track list and none of the other paraphernalia. I’d like to listen to it but although I can afford £400+, I can’t justify it.
600 dollars. That’s roughly 535 euro/ 395 sterling!
Not to mention postage and possible customs duties!
I love Bob but will have to dream about that one.
Since Francis has us all in confessional mode, I have to admit that there are times the voice of Leonard Cohen puts me to sleep. As this is particularly dangerous while driving, I’d like to ask that he cease forthwith and spare the others on the road from my automotive somnambulism.
In all seriousness, I’m going to have to second the points raised about the King Crimson sets of late, which may be pricey, but are an embarrassment of riches, musically speaking without being completely unattainable to even a moderate-level fan. Much as I would have loved to pick up the complete Basement Tapes set, the price has put me off from day one and never dropped (barring one seller on Amazon who was selling the packaging and book ONLY for some reason…), which hasn’t helped my reluctance.
I get that some collectors like to be able to have their “exclusive” pieces and I even have a few that I cherish, but it seems like there’s an artificial shrinking of supply here, which rather defeats the purpose of opening the vaults to begin with as near as I can tell.
Whilst not a fan of Dylan I can see why people are getting excited. One man’s trash is another man’s gold and all that. I would pay a hefty penny for all the cutting room outtakes of the likes of Stephen Duffy (who is a massive fan of Bob) or Kate Bush. At least Dylan fans get to hear what they want and that is good for them. Enjoy chaps and chapesses!
14 versions of Return to Yesterday or Julie Christie…yes please.
The two disc set looks fine for my purposes. Plus, I’m pretty sure I’ll be able to use a gift card at Target (which, being an educator, I usually get plenty of around Christmas time) to pick up that version. I like Dylan as much as the normal rock fan, but 18 discs is just way too much for me.
Also, haven’t King Crimson managed to release fantastic fan-pleasing complete studio & live box sets comprising over 20 Discs & inc. 5:1 surround sound, blu-ray, books et al for sub £200?
Just sayin’.
Yeah, but Dylan is a big ‘brand’ for want of a better word. Premium pricing unsurprising.
You beat me to it, Barry. I think you could pick up Larks Tounges (15 discs?), Road to Red and Starless (24 discs each) and and still have change from the cost of this superdeluxe.
The 18 disc set is a must if you’re a fan of ‘false starts’ :)
Wish the 18CD didn’t come with the 9 mono singles so it would be slightly cheaper (and smaller). 5,000 copies will still sell out pretty quickly whatever they charge (judging by some monster Grateful Dead sets). There are enough “baby boomer” Dylan super-fans with plenty spare cash to ensure this – unlike the unlucky generations that followed that can barely even afford to put a roof over their heads.
Whilst this is highly desirable, and I love Dylan, I think I’ll [have to] sit this one out and DL FLACS or WAVs from a Torrent site later.
Agreed, there needs to be massive reform on mortgage rules and real estate law so younger generations have a chance.
Glad to see Francis has no supporters here Dylan is probably the most important artist in popular music based on who he has inspired . The 18 cd box set while wonderful as an object poses at least 2 problems for me
a) justifying $600 spent on music
b) where can i physically store all this stuff
that keeps getting released? I don’t know about anyone else
but i am not lucky enough to have a couple of spare rooms for my music collection. Answers on a postcard please.
At least the 18-disc set will truly be the ‘last word’ on studio Dylan in 1965/6. By definition it has to be.
Regardless of one’s standpoint on Dylan, there is no arguing about how good Dylan’s fans have it. Wow, it’s just incredible how much material of his has been released and how high the quality of those releases are.
a confession
I speak for no-one but myself, but for dylan completists like me who’ve been collecting (the illegal) bootlegs for decades, the 2-cd and 6-cd sets are (with few exceptions) just cleaner versions of what we’ve already known (the hotel cd #18 hopefully will be cleaner than what was out there but didn’t that all go onto bob spitz’s crap cassette recorder?).
I’m the idiot who will now be fronting up the 600$ I”ve saved over the years by converting audio streams to files that i packed into boxfuls of cassettes and discs.
You moralists who believe audiofile sharing is theft and not liberation need to ask yourselves why cassette recording was invented and made available to the public: it’s a product of capitalism easily adapted to a democratic application. If you don’t know or care about 12Strings and Tambourines or No Fun you don’t get to judge those who do, the same way we don’t get to judge Francis going on a Dylan website to whinge about his voice. Desolation Row stands on its own in its incarnation on BlondeonBlonde, but the live version at Forest Hills that summer is every bit as crucial as an artistic experience no matter who owns the rights to it.
Yes we grew up in the tape-and-share 70’s and went on to file-share and to pirate artists’ leaked private outtakes and got assheads like metallica to expose their true motivating principles but we get partial credit for the dylanindustry’s bootleg series itself.
Ergo
The unlikelihood of all the recordings of the 5.000 ltd edition 18-cd collection being available on youtube (like v.11 the Complete Basement Tapes is, for now) in our lifetime is the real reason i’m willing to pay some makeup money. I am even willing to grant the genius behind the thinking at bobdylanindustries that led to this release, and to pay them for it.
Rob2,
Agree with everything you’ve said – except your giving the benefit of the doubt to Bobdylan.com, and effectively to Bob Dylan himself. The history – from the first Basement Tapes album, through Biograph, and the Bootleg series, to the mono box – indicates a deliberate omissions policy for getting fans to shell out as much and as often as possible. By comparison the bloke who’s going to buy the 18 disc set, copy it and send it back, is on the moral high ground.
(I take it that Desolation Row on Blonde on Blonde was a slip of the keyboard.)
Downloaded the two pre-release tracks (fab!), and pre-ordered the 2-disc set. That’ll do me. I have neither the money or the patience for anything more!
Thought this might be of interest to others. Mainly as an exercise to try and talk myself out of wanting the 18 disc collectors edition (not sure if it’s worked!), I listed all the tracks from the 18 disc set that apparently aren’t on the 6 disc set or anywhere else. Here’s what I came up with:
Disc 1
16. She Belongs To Me – Take 2 remake (1/13/1965) Complete.
17. Outlaw Blues – Take 1 remake (1/13/1965) False start.
21. Love Minus Zero/No Limit – (1/14/1965) Insert.
23. Subterranean Homesick Blues – Take 2 remake (1/14/1965) False start.
25. Outlaw Blues – Take 1 remake (1/14/1965) False start.
26. Outlaw Blues – Take 2 remake (1/14/1965) Fragment/breakdown.
Disc 2
5. On The Road Again – Take 1 (1/14/1965) False start.
6. On The Road Again – Take 2 (1/14/1965) Complete.
7. On The Road Again – Take 3 (1/14/1965) False start.
9. Maggie’s Farm – Take 1 (1/15/1965) Released on Bringing It All Back Home, 1965.
11. On The Road Again – Takes 2-6 remake (1/15/1965) False starts/complete.
13. On The Road Again – Takes 8-9 remake (1/15/1965) False starts.
14. On The Road Again – Take 11 remake (1/15/1965) False start.
15. On The Road Again – Take 12 remake (1/15/1965) False start.
22. Mr. Tambourine Man – Takes 4-5 (1/15/1965) Breakdown.
Disc 3
3. If You Gotta Go, Go Now – Take 3 (1/15/1965) Complete.
6. It Takes A Lot To Laugh, It Takes A Train To Cry – Takes 2-3 (6/15/1965) Fragments.
7. It Takes A Lot To Laugh, It Takes A Train To Cry – Take 4 (6/15/1965) Breakdown.
8. It Takes A Lot To Laugh, It Takes A Train To Cry – Takes 5 (6/15/1965) False start.
9. It Takes A Lot To Laugh, It Takes A Train To Cry – Takes 6 (6/15/1965) Breakdown.
10. It Takes A Lot To Laugh, It Takes A Train To Cry – Take 7 (6/15/1965) Insert.
16. Sitting On A Barbed-Wire Fence – Take 2 (6/15/1965) Edited version. Complete.
18. Sitting On A Barbed-Wire Fence – Takes 4-5 (6/15/1965) False starts.
19. Sitting On A Barbed-Wire Fence – Take 6 (6/15/1965) Complete.
Disc 4
Disc 5
1. It Takes A Lot To Laugh, It Takes A Train To Cry – Take 1 (7/29/1965) Breakdown.
2. It Takes A Lot To Laugh, It Takes A Train To Cry – Take 2 (7/29/1965) False start.
5. Tombstone Blues – Takes 2-3 (7/29/1965) False starts.
6. Tombstone Blues – Take 4 (7/29/1965) Complete.
7. Tombstone Blues – Takes 5-7 (7/29/1965) False starts, rehearsal.
9. Tombstone Blues – Take 10 (7/29/1965) False start.
10. Tombstone Blues – Take 11 (7/29/1965) Breakdown.
12. It Takes A Lot To Laugh, It Takes A Train To Cry – Take 1 (7/29/1965) Complete.
13. It Takes A Lot To Laugh, It Takes A Train To Cry – Take 2 (7/29/1965) False start.
19. Positively 4th Street – Take 6 (7/29/1965) Breakdown.
20. Positively 4th Street – Take 7 (7/29/1965) Breakdown.
21. Positively 4th Street – Take 8 (7/29/1965) Breakdown.
22. Positively 4th Street – Take 10 (7/29/1965) Breakdown.
Disc 6
3. From A Buick 6 – Take 2 (7/30/1965) False start.
6. Can You Please Crawl Out Your Window? – Takes 1-4 (7/30/1965) False starts.
8. Can You Please Crawl Out Your Window? – Take 2 (7/30/1965) False start.
9. Can You Please Crawl Out Your Window? – Take 3 (7/30/1965) Complete.
10. Can You Please Crawl Out Your Window? – Take 4 (7/30/1965) False start.
11. Can You Please Crawl Out Your Window? – Take 5 (7/30/1965) Complete.
12. Can You Please Crawl Out Your Window? – Take 6 (7/30/1965) Rehearsal/false start.
13. Can You Please Crawl Out Your Window? – Take 7 (7/30/1965) False start.
14. Can You Please Crawl Out Your Window? – Take 8 (7/30/1965) False start.
15. Can You Please Crawl Out Your Window? – Takes 10-11 (7/30/1965) False starts.
16. Can You Please Crawl Out Your Window? – Take 12 (7/30/1965) Complete.
17. Can You Please Crawl Out Your Window? – Take 14 (7/30/1965) Breakdown.
18. Can You Please Crawl Out Your Window? – Take 15 (7/30/1965) Breakdown.
20. Highway 61 Revisited – Take 1 (8/02/1965) False start.
21. Highway 61 Revisited – Take 2 (8/02/1965) False start.
23. Highway 61 Revisited – Take 4 (8/02/1965) False start.
25. Highway 61 Revisited – Take 5 (mis-slate) (8/02/1965) Complete.
28. Highway 61 Revisited – Take 8 (8/02/1965) False start.
Disc 7
3. Just Like Tom Thumb’s Blues – Take 4 (8/02/1965) Rehearsal.
5. Just Like Tom Thumb’s Blues – Takes 9-10 (8/02/1965) Breakdown.
6. Just Like Tom Thumb’s Blues – Takes 11-12 (8/02/1965) False starts.
8. Just Like Tom Thumb’s Blues – Takes 14-15 (8/02/1965) False starts.
10. Queen Jane Approximately – Take 1 (8/02/1965) Rehearsal.
12. Queen Jane Approximately – Take 3 (8/02/1965) False start.
13. Queen Jane Approximately – Take 4 (8/02/1965) False start.
15. Queen Jane Approximately – Take 6 (8/02/1965) Complete.
17. Ballad Of A Thin Man – Take 1 (8/02/1965) False start.
20. Ballad Of A Thin Man – Take 4 (8/02/1965) Insert.
Disc 8
1. Desolation Row – Takes 1-2 remake (8/02/1965) False start/breakdown.
2. Desolation Row – Take 3 remake (8/02/1965) Breakdown.
3. Desolation Row – Take 4 remake (8/02/1965) False start.
4. Desolation Row – Take 5 remake (8/02/1965) Complete.
6. Tombstone Blues – Take 2 (8/03/1965) Complete. Vocal overdub.
7. Tombstone Blues – Take 3 (8/03/1965) Complete. Vocal overdub.
8. Desolation Row – Take 1 (8/04/1965) Rehearsal.
12. Desolation Row – Take 6 (8/04/1965) Guitar overdub.
13. Desolation Row – Take 7 (8/04/1965) Guitar overdub
16. Medicine Sunday – Take 2 (10/05/1965) Incomplete.
18. I Wanna Be Your Lover – (10/05/1965) Rehearsal.
19. Can You Please Crawl Out Your Window? – Take 1 (10/05/1965) Fragment.
20. Can You Please Crawl Out Your Window? – Take 2 (10/05/1965) Fragment.
Disc 9
2. I Wanna Be Your Lover – Take 1 Edit 1 (10/05/1965) Complete.
3. I Wanna Be Your Lover – Take 1 Edit 2 (10/05/1965) Complete.
4. I Wanna Be Your Lover – Take 2 (10/05/1965) Complete.
5. I Wanna Be Your Lover – (10/05/1965) Rehearsal.
6. I Wanna Be Your Lover – Take 3 10/05/1965) Complete.
7. I Wanna Be Your Lover – Take 4 (10/05/1965) Complete.
8. I Wanna Be Your Lover – Take 5 (10/05/1965) Complete
11. Instrumental – Take 1 (10/05/1965) Fragment.
14. Visions Of Johanna – Take 2 (11/30/1965) Rehearsal.
15. Visions Of Johanna – Take 3 (11/30/1965) Rehearsal.
16. Visions Of Johanna – Take 4 (11/30/1965) Complete.
18. Visions Of Johanna – Take 6 (11/30/1965) Rehearsal.
Disc 10
1. Visions Of Johanna – Takes 9-12 (11/30/1965) False starts.
2. Visions Of Johanna – Take 13 (11/30/1965) Breakdown.
4. Can You Please Crawl Out Your Window? – Take 1 (11/30/1965) False start.
5. Can You Please Crawl Out Your Window? – Take 2 (11/30/1965) False start, rehearsal.
6. Can You Please Crawl Out Your Window? – Take 3 (11/30/1965) False start.
7. Can You Please Crawl Out Your Window? – Take 4 (11/30/1965) False start, rehearsal.
9. Can You Please Crawl Out Your Window? – Take 7 (11/30/1965) Breakdown.
10. Can You Please Crawl Out Your Window? – Take 8 (11/30/1965) Complete.
11. Can You Please Crawl Out Your Window? – Take 9 (11/30/1965) False start.
14. She’s Your Lover Now – Take 2 (1/21/1966) Rehearsal.
15. She’s Your Lover Now – Take 3 (1/21/1966) Breakdown.
16. She’s Your Lover Now – Take 4 (1/21/1966) Incomplete.
17. She’s Your Lover Now – Take 5 (1/21/1966) Rehearsal.
19. She’s Your Lover Now – Take 7 (1/21/1966) False start.
20. She’s Your Lover Now – Take 8 (1/21/1966) Rehearsal.
21. She’s Your Lover Now – Take 9 (1/21/1966) Rehearsal.
22. She’s Your Lover Now – Takes 10-11 (1/21/1966) Rehearsal.
23. She’s Your Lover Now – Take 12 (1/21/1966) Rehearsal.
24. She’s Your Lover Now – Take 13 (1/21/1966) Rehearsal.
Disc 11
1. She’s Your Lover Now – Take 14 (1/21/1966) Breakdown.
3. She’s Your Lover Now – (1/21/1966) Rehearsal.
6. Leopard-Skin Pill-Box Hat – Take 2 (1/25/1966) Complete.
7. One Of Us Must Know (Sooner Or Later) – Take 1 (1/25/1966) Rehearsal.
9. One Of Us Must Know (Sooner Or Later) – Take 3 (1/25/1966) Fragment.
11. One Of Us Must Know (Sooner Or Later) – Take 5 (1/25/1966) Rehearsal.
12. One Of Us Must Know (Sooner Or Later) – Takes 6-8 (1/25/1966) Rehearsal.
13. One Of Us Must Know (Sooner Or Later) – Take 9 (1/25/1966) Rehearsal.
14. One Of Us Must Know (Sooner Or Later) – Takes 10-14 (1/25/1966) Rehearsal.
15. One Of Us Must Know (Sooner Or Later) – Take 15 (1/25/1966) Complete.
16. One Of Us Must Know (Sooner Or Later) – Takes 16-17 (1/25/1966) False starts.
17. One Of Us Must Know (Sooner Or Later) – Take 18 (1/25/1966) Complete.
18. One Of Us Must Know (Sooner Or Later) – (1/25/1966) Rehearsal.
20. One Of Us Must Know (Sooner Or Later) – Takes 21-22 (1/25/1966) Breakdown.
Disc 12
1. One Of Us Must Know (Sooner Or Later) – Take 23 (1/25/1966) Complete.
3. One Of Us Must Know (Sooner Or Later) – (1/25/1966) Master take, guitar (BD) and organ.
4. One Of Us Must Know (Sooner Or Later) – (1/25/1966) Master take, vocal.
5. One Of Us Must Know (Sooner Or Later) – (1/25/1966) Master take, piano and drums.
6. One Of Us Must Know (Sooner Or Later) – (1/25/1966) Master take, guitar and bass.
8. Leopard-Skin Pill-Box Hat – Takes 1-2 (1/27/1966) False start, incomplete.
9. Leopard-Skin Pill-Box Hat – (1/27/1966) Insert.
10. I’ll Keep It With Mine – (no date listed) Rehearsal. Partially released on The Bootleg Series, Vol.1-3, 1991.
11. Fourth Time Around – Take 1 (2/14/1966) Rehearsal.
12. Fourth Time Around – Take 2 (2/14/1966) Breakdown.
13. Fourth Time Around – Takes 3-4 (2/14/1966) Rehearsal.
14. Fourth Time Around – Take 5 (2/14/1966) Complete.
15. Fourth Time Around – Takes 6-7 (2/14/1966) Rehearsal.
16. Fourth Time Around – Take 8 (2/14/1966) Rehearsal.
17. Fourth Time Around – Takes 9-10 (2/14/1966) False starts.
Disc 13
2. Fourth Time Around – Takes 12-13 (2/14/1966) False starts.
3. Fourth Time Around – Takes 14-16 (2/14/1966) False starts.
4. Fourth Time Around – Takes 17-18 (2/14/1966) False starts.
5. Fourth Time Around – Take 19 (2/14/1966) Breakdown.
7. Visions Of Johanna – Take 1 (2/14/1966) False start.
8. Visions Of Johanna – Take 2 (2/14/1966) Breakdown.
9. Visions Of Johanna – Take 3 (2/14/1966) False start.
11. Leopard-Skin Pill-Box Hat – Takes 1-2 (2/14/1966) Rehearsal.
13. Leopard-Skin Pill-Box Hat – Takes 4-5 (2/14/1966) Rehearsal.
14. Leopard-Skin Pill-Box Hat – Take 6 (2/14/1966) Breakdown.
15. Leopard-Skin Pill-Box Hat – Take 6 again (2/14/1966) Rehearsal.
17. Leopard-Skin Pill-Box Hat – Take 9 (2/14/1966) Breakdown.
18. Leopard-Skin Pill-Box Hat – Take 10 (2/14/1966) False start.
19. Leopard-Skin Pill-Box Hat – Take 11 (2/14/1966) Breakdown.
20. Leopard-Skin Pill-Box Hat – Take 12 (2/14/1966) False start.
21. Leopard-Skin Pill-Box Hat – Take 13 (2/14/1966) Complete.
22. I’ll Keep It With Mine (instrumental) – Take 1 (2/15/1966) Rehearsal.
23. I’ll Keep It With Mine (instrumental) – Take 2 (2/15/1966) Rehearsal.
24. I’ll Keep It With Mine (instrumental) – Take 3 (2/15/1966) Rehearsal.
25. I’ll Keep It With Mine (instrumental) – Take 4 (2/15/1966) Rehearsal.
26. I’ll Keep It With Mine (instrumental) – Take 5 (2/15/1966) Rehearsal.
27. I’ll Keep It With Mine (instrumental) – Takes 6-7 (2/15/1966) Rehearsal.
28. I’ll Keep It With Mine (instrumental) – Take 8 (2/15/1966) Rehearsal.
29. I’ll Keep It With Mine (instrumental) – Take 8 again (2/15/1966) Complete.
30. I’ll Keep It With Mine (instrumental) – Take 9 (2/15/1966) Complete.
Disc 14
2. Sad-Eyed Lady Of The Lowlands – Take 2 (2/16/1966) Rehearsal.
3. Sad-Eyed Lady Of The Lowlands – Take 3 (2/16/1966) Complete.
7. Stuck Inside Of Mobile With The Memphis Blues Again – Take 1 (2/17/1966) Breakdown.
8. Stuck Inside Of Mobile With The Memphis Blues Again – Takes 2-3 (2/17/1966) Rehearsal.
9. Stuck Inside Of Mobile With The Memphis Blues Again – Take 4 (2/17/1966) Breakdown.
10. Stuck Inside Of Mobile With The Memphis Blues Again – Take 4 (mis-slate) (2/17/1966) False start.
12. Stuck Inside Of Mobile With The Memphis Blues Again – Takes 6-8 (2/17/1966) False starts.
13. Stuck Inside Of Mobile With The Memphis Blues Again – Take 9 (2/17/1966) Breakdown.
14. Stuck Inside Of Mobile With The Memphis Blues Again – Take 10 (2/17/1966) False start.
15. Stuck Inside Of Mobile With The Memphis Blues Again – Takes 11-12 (2/17/1966) Breakdown.
Disc 15
3. Absolutely Sweet Marie – (3/07/1966) Rehearsal.
5. Absolutely Sweet Marie – Take 2 (3/07/1966) False start.
7. Absolutely Sweet Marie – (3/07/1966) Insert.
9. Just Like A Woman – Take 2 (3/08/1966) Complete.
10. Just Like A Woman – Take 3 (3/08/1966) Complete.
12. Pledging My Time – Take 1 (3/08/1966) Breakdown.
13. Pledging My Time – (3/08/1966) Rehearsal.
14. Pledging My Time – Take 2 (3/08/1966) False start.
16. Just Like A Woman – Take 5 (3/08/1966) False start.
17. Just Like A Woman – Take 6 (3/08/1966) Breakdown.
Disc 16
2. Just Like A Woman – Takes 9-10 (3/08/1966) False start, breakdown.
3. Just Like A Woman – Takes 11-12 (3/08/1966) Rehearsal.
4. Just Like A Woman – Take 13 (3/08/1966) Breakdown.
5. Just Like A Woman – Takes 14-15 (3/08/1966) Rehearsal.
6. Just Like A Woman – Take 16 (3/08/1966) Complete.
7. Just Like A Woman – Take 17 (3/08/1966) Breakdown.
10. Most Likely You Go Your Way (And I’ll Go Mine) – Take 2 (3/09/1966) Rehearsal.
11. Most Likely You Go Your Way (And I’ll Go Mine) – Take 3 (3/09/1966) Rehearsal.
12. Most Likely You Go Your Way (And I’ll Go Mine) – Take 4 (3/09/1966) Rehearsal.
13. Most Likely You Go Your Way (And I’ll Go Mine) – Take 5 (3/09/1966) Breakdown.
15. Temporary Like Achilles – Take 1 (3/09/1966) Complete.
16. Temporary Like Achilles – Take 2 (3/09/1966) False start
Disc 17
1. Obviously Five Believers – Take 1 (3/10/1966) False start.
2. Obviously Five Believers – Take 2 (3/10/1966) Breakdown.
6. I Want You – (3/10/1966) Rehearsal.
7. I Want You – Take 1 (3/10/1966) Complete.
8. I Want You – Take 2 (3/10/1966) Breakdown.
9. I Want You – Take 3 (3/10/1966) Rehearsal, false start.
12. I Want You – Take 5b (3/10/1966) Insert, guitar overdub.
Disc 18
All 21 hotel demo tracks here are unique to this set (I think)
Thanks, Rob. This is helpful for a decision which just isn’t coming. What really puts me off is the leopardskin spindle. Sets an unfortunate tone. Did they consider the head of a hyena?
Thanks, Rob, I’m facing the same dilemma!
…and there are the two VU deluxe releases to cope with. It’s the same every Autumn. Roll on cheaper Spring I say.
It’s £100 for the six disc version which is a bit rich considering I got 42 albums (which I already owned at least twice) for just over that, so I have to wonder if I would play the 18 disks more than once. I would definitely get the 6 disc set over the 2 disc despite the price. I don’t want the extra tat either. I would just like a box with 18 CDs in it for quite a bit less.
I think you’ve gotta be an obsessive with deep pockets for the 18 disc set, although it should be a worthwhile investment – it’s value will certainly appreciate.
But as a person of advancing years would I be able to listen to all 18 discs at least once and would my son thank me for leaving them to him :-) Would like to think the 2 CD set is the pick of the tracks.
The official webpage also says the big box includes high res downloads of all 18 CDs. Doesn’t say what quality high res though.
There will be a lot of stuff that will probably not be that interesting in the 18 disc set, however, I am intrigued by the idea that it comes with a hi-res download of the entire set. I purchased BonB, Highway 61 and B on the T from hdtracks and they are outstanding. will there be a hi-res download with the six set cd.
I’m looking forward to this, probably the vinyl & 6 CD sets for me.
I will be looking longingly at that 18 CD box. If a UK importer gets it, maybe, maybe…
Here comes the obligatory Dylan vocal bashing. Honestly I love his singing – he may not have what I would call a traditionally pretty voice but it possesses a raw power and his phrasing is without peer. I would take a voice with character any day over the kind of bland kitchen commercial but technically immaculate singing that marred the entire AOR era (Boston and Journey always come to mind). Anyways can’t wait for this box. This era to me is Prime Dylan, maybe only matched by the Blood on the Tracks era.
Hi,
There isn’t anything on the 6CD that isn’t on the 18CD.
I ordered both because I’ll sort of treat the 6CD as the ‘highlights’ that I can more easily get out and play (I know there is a 2 CD highlights also).
Plus I am one of those sad types that has all the other previous deluxe editions of the bootleg series so I want to keep the series going!
The last disc of the 18 disc set looks especially intriguing.
They did this with the last release, the Basement Tapes, just released everything. That way, it puts all the fans bleating to bed (in theory) about what may or may not still be out there or ‘why didn’t they release such and such’.
They are always really well presented packages, been a long term Dylan fan and seen him live more than any other artist I’m into so I agree I’m definitely in the target market for this.
Mark
well done Mark- great set eh
Who on earth wants twenty takes of Like a Rolling Stone?
Well actually, me, please!
However I may wait for Black Friday on this as I managed to pick up vol.s 10 and 11 deluxe at decent prices last December.
Francis,
if you don’t like Bob Dylan why do you react in this tread?????
Francis , if you can’t stand his voice bar a few songs why are you bothering commenting?
Totally onboard for the 6 disc – of course I was sort of hoping that Volume 12 would bring forth “Blood on the Tracks”
I will stare at the 18 discs for a while and wonder if I really want to roll out $599.00
Have to agree that I would have liked a later period covered (even though I will buy this if/when the price drops a bit). The pre ’67 era has filled so much disc space already, that there are inevitable repeats across the discs.
Thanks for the information, Paul.
I was wondering if the material on the 6CD differs from that on the 18CD set, as one reader (Mark S) said he ordered both?
Cheers.
Don’t think it can, since the 18CD set literally has EVERYTHING Dylan recorded in 1965 and 1966, so whatever is on the 6CD must be part of the 18CD set.
The BobDylan.com blurb says ‘everything’, but there’s nothing to indicate conclusively that the If You Gotta Go Go Now single is there. No mention of the overdubbed female backing vocals. Does anyone know which take the single was? If it was 15/1/65 take 2, great – it’s on all three sets. But then one of the tracklists notes take 2 as an alternate take. If the single was 15/1/65 take 1, 3 or 4, then it’s only on the 18 disc set – if it’s anywhere at all.
just compare the recording dates and takes of the 6-cd v. the 18-cd sets: the 6-cd set comes from the 18-cd set
For those of us torn between the 6 CD set and the 18 CD set, a deciding factor might be the respective number of complete tracks as opposed to snippets. Ignoring tracks previously released, the 18 CD set gives you, by my count, 45 complete studio takes which you don’t get on the 6 CD set. But this includes around a dozen variants (i.e. overdubbed, underdubbed, edited, track isolated etc.) of takes which are on the 6CD set. Otherwise what the 18 has over the 6 is a battery of aborted takes plus the hotel etc. recordings which make up the 18th disc. Intelligently, then, the 6 CD set focuses on complete takes whenever these exist. It’s just a question of whether the people at Sony, or maybe Dylan himself, chose the best complete takes. Neither has a great track record for that.
PS Mike, as far as I can see there’s nothing on the 6CD set that’s not on the 18 disc set, though I wouldn’t put it past Sony.
So glad that you dropped by Francis and left us that astounding insight into what you think of Dylan.
I can not stand Bob Dylan’s voice or understand why people think he is so great (he sings like a drunk man staggering through the streets late at night). The only tracks I can actually say I do like by him (singing) are: “Knockin’ on heaven’s door”, “Lay lady lay”, “Baby stop crying”, “Hurricane”, “The times they are a-changin'”, “Maggie’s farm” and “Subterranean homesick blues”…and that is about it. He should stick to letting other artists sing his songs because they do a much better job of them, such as “Mr Tambourine man” (his version is absolutely dreadful, where as The Byrds did it perfectly and so much nicer).
Y
I believe There is a 24 cd box of James Last sings Bob
in the pipeline, sounds right up your street!
Not true. James Last has only covered a handful of Dylan tracks.
Lighten up Francis
Ha! I see what you did there. Sgt. Hulka isn’t always going to be there to be that big toe.
I just do not like his singing (if it can be called that). If I wish to listen to someone singing like a drunk I can go to a city pub or stag night.
Then don’t buy it then. Sheesh.
I am not going to!
lol.
Six disc set £100?
I will continue my modus operandi with the massively overpriced Bootleg Series book editions and again order it, copy the audio, read the book (usually mainly photos) and send it back. I will then buy the two disc set to keep.
I know that is frowned upon but I am not paying silly money for six CD’s.
So why is it OK to buy it, copy the audio, and return it? I would have thought there would be a bigger outcry on this board over shenanigans like that.
Why not try “doing without?” That’s what most of us do when faced with this conundrum. Why do you believe you are entitled to own but not pay for the additional material?
Then why the HELL are you reading this thread?
Trolls who behave in this way make me sick!
My comment about TROLLS is directed at Francis.
A bit harsh I’d say…he’s only politely express his personal view. Can’t say I agree with him though but my wife would probably take his side. I remember in the early days of the internet I had the cheek to comment (on a Slade forum) that in my view Salde were not a great album band but were instead a fantastic singles band. I got kicked out of the forum…still makes me smile to this day. (btw: I’ve since softened my view but still think I was right)
Hello Francis
I have passed your complaint to Columbia Records & they are now withdrawing the release. Also I have sent a message to the Dylan website & as a consequence , every fan is sending their records to land fill. Lastly I have spoken to Bob himself & agrees with your comments & will now cease his 55 year career at your behest. Thanks.
Good comment Stanley.
Yippee !
That’s OK… different strokes, etc.
i will pay you to find a better-sung version of visions of johanna
i feel bad for your ignorance. bob dylan is a great singer, and even better live. just try the newport folk festival performances, or the official bootleg series vol 4, 5 and 6. then tell me he’s a bad singer. there’s a reason as to why he’s such a success. just because you have an opinion, it doesn’t always mean you’re right.
well said Francis
Let’s understand that Bob Dylan was paving the way for the singer-songwriter era that will uprise in the first half of the 1970s. Here in Brazil we have, among others, Chico Buarque, primarily a songwriter, not a singer. But many of his songs are better sung by him; others are better sung by others. And he does not look like a drunk man singing. Cat Stevens, James Taylor, Carole King, Joni Mitchell, Nick Drake and many others have a debt on Dylan’s pionneer work in the 1960s.
Ordered the 18cd monster. $652.00 total. Cannot wait.
Even with 18 discs and every single note recorded in the studio between 1965-1966, you’ll not be surprised that over on one of the main Dylan forums they’re up in arms because there’s no Live material.
There is no pleasing Bob fans. Seriously.
Me? Ordered the 6CD and the 18 CD.
Expensive times we live in!
Hi Mark,
Do you think the material on the 6CD and 18 disc set are or will be different? I was assuming that everything would be in the collectors edition box that is being released on the other individual formats?
I’d have thought the six disc set would be the highlights of the 18 disc set