Roger Waters / “Amused to Death” reissue: more details emerge

According to analogue productions this title is now listed as a “no show”, ie cancelled… boooooooo!

Hi
All I want to know is when Amused To Death will finally be coming to my house. I preorded two copies for myself and for my over the top for Roger Waters, grandson. Around April of 2013 and to be released in September of 2013. That is quite a long time to create perfection. Please let it go forth to be enjoyed and reloved by all of us restless music lovers.

HAPPY TRAILS
Richard

Dean i am with you in regards to SACD players you are 100% correct, how many music fanatics have the above format in their own living room? At the moment i have 3 bd players, the latest Oppo, L.G. and a Kogan inclusive. All in all what we all want here is the best sounding format,
i am extremely blown away by 5.1 bluray surround sound!! Especially the
past couple of years, Pink Floyd’s W.Y.W.H, D.S.O.T.M. Jethro Tull’s
Aqualung, the recent Yes “Close To The Edge” and next week “The Yes Album” in glorious 5.1. Also in June will see the Who’s “Quadrophenia Live In London” in various formats and also bd. I guess it has taken a long time but no doubt bd is here to stay as there really isn’t that much on sacd, except at the moment in Japan.

I’m one of those that believe that SACD was always and inferior product to DVD let alone DVDA and that Blu ray is probably the best way to release anything in Hi Rez, the benefits are obvious a higher installed base (home cinema systems) offering greater sales opeprtunities.
The format also offers teh oppertunity to add contemporary Video press packs etc. all of which can not be done on SACD.

I dont want to get into the hard filtering that has to happen with domestic SACD because DSD is such a bad format at high frequencies, so bad in fact that a well mastered CD will have greater clarity at thetop end.

Hey Dean, I don’t particularly love SACD to be honest, but my entry into surround music was a multi format DVD player. I think blu ray is still not the mainstream – the racks in the shops seem to indicate that anyway, but then compare that to the no racks of SACD… Maybe SACD has a wider reach though for 5.1. Maybe the people that shout the loudest want SACD. I dunno, but frequent format changing by the industry is expensive and frustrating for consumers and neither you nor I want to invest in another format at present, it seems!

I hear you, Mike. Aside from music, I – like many other people – watch movies too. Blu-Ray is the format of choice for that, Hence more people have Blu-Ray players. And since movies benefit from surround, hence why so many Blu-Ray/Surround combo’s exist.

I do think the bigger picture is being missed here. There is no reason at all why we should be discussing formats. They could release the hi-res music on any format they choose. But they choose not to. That’s the problem. I have no issue with you loving your SACD. As a music lover, I’m genuinely pleased for you. However, I just don’t believe I, or anyone else, should be forced to buy into SACD just because of some licensing agreement. This braindead decision isn’t being made because SACD is a better format – it’s being done because of stupidity and marketing.

I honestly don’t know why anyone would support this kind of thinking.

Still, I look forward to hearing this when it comes out, it happens to be an album I love.

SACD is a long running hi res format, and there are loads of players out there. For blu ray I’d have to buy a new player and a new amp just to take advantage of the audio. There are to my knowledge around 5 discrete digital surround sound formats, and 4 of them can fairly easily be played from one DVD A/SACD player.

Thanks for the advice. However, I am not going to buy into SACD. I am not interested in a acquiring another format. There is no reason why Blu-Ray should sound worse. The point is, I’d wager there are more Blu-ray players in homes connected to surround setup’s, than there are SACD players. The consumer has spoken. The Audiophile proprietary format approach is anti-consumer, anti-music, and one big red herring. In other words, there is simply no reason for it to exist – let alone record companies signing agreements so hi-res versions can ONLY come out in that format – not for any technical reason, but because they can make more money from it. It’s wrong, and for a music buyer like myself, I feel it is an attack on the art form I love.

I’ll get a copy of Amused to Death in surround. I just won’t pay for it. I’m not proud and arrogant in writing that. But I’m also not going to be led around by the nose by business practices that try to limit my choices.

It’s long passed time for SACD to leave the stage (my setup, by the way, is all Linn). I admit, this does make me angry. I don’t see how the record business can, ultimately, win this battle. But when they choose to fight against me as a customer…. it’s just ridiculous.

I’ll tell you what my biggest problem with Audiophiles is – they get far too entrenched in formats. Vinyl is always better than redbook. SACD is always better than Blu-Ray etc. It’s a nonsense. Some Vinyl sounds horrible. Some redbook sounds great. And Blu-Ray can equal SACD. Record companies should be looking to sell as much music as they can. This situation with Amused to Death isn’t apparently doing that. It’s idiotic. And I don’t consider myself remotely anti-record label. Not getting Amused to Death isn’t exactly going to kill me. But that’s not the point. Music is made to be heard. We should not be held to ransom by squalid format wars.

It was revealed by James Guthrie this past weekend at the Princeton University Pink Floyd Conference that there are plans to release Amused to Death on Blu-ray by Sony but that it will most likely be at a lower resolution than the SACD.

“Lower resolution” were James’ exact words…. the understanding of what was said is that this arises because Acoustic Sounds have the high resolution distribution deal, Sony have the regular formats for ordinary human ears… but then Sony also expressed interest in releasing the 5.1 mix so this is the compromise that makes the least number of important people miserable.

In my opinion, the high resolution format is being held hostage by the SACD release which I find frustrating and reprehensible.

I cancelled my pre-order for this release because I don’t want to support this type of marketing ploy.

Is there anywhere we can read the press release?

I own 400+ Pink Floyd and PF related items (LPs, CDs, singles, bootlegs, books, flexis, almost 1K including downloads)… I’ve just received the Nick Mason signed book (just to mention the latest).
I think that Pros & Cons was a wonderful record, but ATD????
Sorry, maybe I ‘m wrong, but it’s a record that I don’t want to own more than once (my 22 yo original copy)…

Try Amazon they have Oppo universal players that play everything including SACD’s in 5.1 and they are $499

If it came on BluRay i’d buy it. I am not a fan of SACDs as its not easy to find a bloody player that plays them, AND its even harder to find a player that plays SACDs in 5.1

There are 3 layers on an SACD so could they be putting the original on the CD layer and then the new stereo mix on the 2nd 2.0 SACD layer followed by the 5.1 mix on the 3rd layer?

I presume the new “content” is what’s in the booklet – artwork, photos etc – like the WYWH SACD. I just hope this is easier to get hold of than that was…

Love Roger Waters.

Love Amused to Death.

Love 5.1 mixes.

Love deluxe editons.

Don’t have, and don’t want, SACD.

Oh well, that’s that then.

@Andy: I believe it will be available at European Amazon websites. Most other titles (e.g. Wish You Were Here SACD) from Analogue Productions are/were available too at the European Amazon websites.

I really find it sad tbh that the original mix, mastered by Doug Sax will not be available in the SACD format. I really don’t see the point of a new stereo mix. A 5.1 mix I can understand and is added value to the SACD, but a new stereo mix? What’s wrong with the original mix?

I would’ve been much more happy if the SACD contained the original mix + the 5.1 mix, but all mastered by Doug Sax. I believe he did a wonderful job on The Doors Analogue Productions SACD’s.

Is it actually going to be released in the UK or will it be import only? Amazon UK is not showing any details.